Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/St. Mary Catholic Church, Huntingburg, Indiana


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The result was delete. Sr13 is almost  Singu  larity  22:04, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

St. Mary Catholic Church, Huntingburg, Indiana

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Non-notable church. Speedy delete was declined with the reason, "In the U.S., any church that is 150 years old is arguably notable." I disagree: the old Northwest Territory (which included Indiana) was settled in the first half of the nineteenth century. This church was established in 1861, around the same time as most of the other churches now in its diocese (the major exception being those parishes started after World War II) and decades after some of them. The oldest still-operational church in the diocese was established in 1732. Most importantly, this church does not appear to be covered by independent, reliable sources that would allow us to expand the article beyond its current stub status. ObiterDicta ( pleadings • errata • appeals ) 00:34, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete. Not familiar with churches, but quite familiar with WP:N.  J- stan  Talk 00:52, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep if article is improved with citations Harlowraman 02:18, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Where precisely are these citations supposed to be found? ObiterDicta ( pleadings • errata • appeals ) 03:37, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete - I haven't found anything useful on Google News Archives. Merely being an old church is not sufficient. To establish notability, keepers need to source something along the lines of: Any architectural notability? Any role this church has played in the community that has set it apart from other similar churches? Being the site of some notable event, perhaps an apparition? TerriersFan 04:12, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete - no notabality asserted. Rather long title.  Onnaghar (T/C) 14:28, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete. It's probably historic, but I can't find any references online that give the history of the church or any reason why it's notable.  If someone can come up with sources that could be used to expand the article and indicate why it's historic, I wouldn't have any prejudices to recreating it.  There are a few churches in Dubois County on the National Register of Historic Places, but this isn't one of them.  --Elkman (Elkspeak) 18:05, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete per Jstan. Zero verification of notability in reliable, independent sources. VanTucky  (talk) 19:49, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete while the decline of speedy may be justifiable, this is just another run-of-the-mill parish. And if 150 years is ok for the US (65% of our independence, and don't say settlement because there were people here before there were Christian people here), I suppose a similar measure would make either most churches in Europe (150 years rule) or Africa (65% rule) notable, unless we arbitrarily apply different rules and someone gets to accuse WP of apartheid and write another article about that accusation. Carlossuarez46 20:39, 3 August 2007 (UTC)


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