Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/St. Simon's Episcopal Church


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The result was delete. Missvain (talk) 16:53, 29 December 2020 (UTC)

St. Simon's Episcopal Church

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Run of the mill congregation. Many churches are notable because they're listed on the NRHP. This one is not and, apart from a single entry in a book detailing every church in Buffalo, there is no other WP:SIGCOV. schetm (talk) 22:22, 25 November 2020 (UTC)
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 * Comment. This is a parish that dates to the 19th century. A quick search of Newspapers.com turned up some SIGCOV, e.g., this and this. The Buffalo Architectural History site also has a history of the buiding. See here. Cbl62 (talk) 05:12, 26 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Weak delete Most but not all of the article is promotional and it's sourced only to the church website. The history section is potentially salvageable into a stub article and I think the sources Cbl62 found can be helpful in saving this thing. If we have a list of churches in Buffalo the history section could be sourced and then moved there, but I haven't checked. SportingFlyer  T · C  23:56, 27 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Merge with South Buffalo, Buffalo, New York. Omniscientmoose42 (talk) 00:49, 28 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Merge with South Buffalo, Buffalo, New York as it would fit there but not enough coverage for a stand-alone article, imv Atlantic306 (talk) 00:03, 29 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep >> I just added an NPR article on the church's soup kitchen. It seems like there are plenty of good sources available to add to this page. Just needs a little help. --Nerdtimer (talk) 21:38, 29 November 2020 (UTC)
 * That's not NPR. It's a story from a WP:LOCAL NPR affiliate. schetm (talk) 22:56, 29 November 2020 (UTC)
 * I do not believe that WP:AUD applies to churches and other such historic buildings. Cbl62 (talk) 23:10, 29 November 2020 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * delete I see no sign of the kind of coverage a parish would need to be notable. It's a handsome enough building, but it doesn't enjoy NRHP notice or anything similar, and the rest is just what any halfway prosperous Episcopal parish is doing. Mangoe (talk) 00:44, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete. First off, this is so poorly written that it would need a major re-write to become an article rather than a soap-box for a church. Secondly, the parish is not notable as a historic church; it's only 95 years old, is not unusually large, and has never been a site for a pilgrimage nor a synod. FWIW, I am an Episcopalian. I would not oppose a redirect per WP:CHEAP. Bearian (talk) 22:43, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Missvain (talk) 01:49, 5 December 2020 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep - the article provided is good enough; the AUD requirement here does not clearly delineate the difference between regional and local.--Epiphyllumlover (talk) 05:09, 12 December 2020 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Missvain (talk) 03:14, 13 December 2020 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete — Per rationale provided by both & . Furthermore, following a google and google book search I couldn’t locate sources with significant coverage for article to be retained at this time.Celestina007 (talk) 20:09, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per the nom and @Bearian. Fails WP:GNG due to only having local WP:runofthemill coverage (primarily their own website), not independent sustained WP:SIGCOV. Was created by a WP:SPA and clearly serves as free proselytization advertising for this church. Newshunter12 (talk) 00:08, 19 December 2020 (UTC)

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