Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/St Anne's Roman Catholic Church, Streetly


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was delete. Can't sleep, clown will eat me 19:58, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

St Anne's Roman Catholic Church, Streetly

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Previously proposed for deletion, then prod removed because "I'd have thought this was a worthwhile if very small contribution to local history, so why decide it is not notable? There is doubtless much more that could be added in the way of dates and also some history of the parish school" by Exumbra. No evidence of notability. Montchav 18:04, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Am new to this, so I could well be misunderstanding "notability". While the subject of this article would be of use - when better desribed - to those interested in Streetly, the Catholic parish or both, is it the lack of sources and refernces that makes this not notable? It could be put right therefore, but probably not by one with only a passing aquaintance with Streetly as I have. The original author needs to try harder? I am still learning - 84.68.40.233 18:54, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Something or someone who is notable will have been written about by magazines, newspapers, feature writers, authors and so on, since they generally write only about things that are notable! Find the articles that have been written about the church and you (or the original author rather) are on the way to demonstrating that it is notable. --Malcolmxl5 23:06, 12 September 2007 (UTC)


 * If the "Mysterons" deserve an article and are thus notable, isn't this? But the question is, are the Mysterons notable? Exumbra 19:19, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
 * This AfD nomination was incomplete. It is listed now. DumbBOT 13:33, 12 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Delete, no notability and none claimed. We're not going to have an article on every parish church in the world.  Corvus cornix 23:28, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of England-related deletions.   -- John Vandenberg 06:05, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Christianity-related deletions.   -- John Vandenberg 06:05, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Thank you Malcolm for a clear and informative comment. But as for Corvuscornix, why not have a comment on every parish church in the world since that would mean Wikipedia IS truly comprehensive, especially if we are trying to be comprehensive enough to include every fictional alien life form (eg the Mysterons)? You will find St Anne's mentioned in the Birmingham Archdiocesan directories (annual publication) and the parish school in local authority and diocesan inspection reports. What are we aiming for here? If someone wishes to use Wikipedia to discover simple and basic facts about an organisation in his or her area (or beyond), what's wrong with a basic entry here? Exumbra 22:01, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
 * WP:OTHERCRAPEXISTS is not a valid argument. Corvus cornix 22:24, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

You have answered a previous question: the Mysterons are not notable. I am tentatively putting my toe in the water of Wikipedia so I expect to slip up now and again. With so large a project as this it seems there will always be entries deemed unworthy of exclusion lurking until deletion. But that does not have to mean that they are, er, "crap", but simply "not notable". Exumbra 15:58, 17 September 2007 (UTC) 
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,


 * Delete No assertion (or evidence of notability). And to Exumbra, you're correct. A better link would be WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS, which is certainly true. That said, the key issue isn't just notability, but  verifiability. Unfortunately, this article doesn't pass that policy either.   B figura  (talk) 05:57, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete A parish church certainly can be notable - if it's in a historic building - but this one isn't. MarkBul 16:11, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Loathe as I am to say it, given that I live nearby, I think this one is a delete for me. No real evidence of notability, not a historic building etc. DWaterson 22:11, 23 September 2007 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.