Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/St Athan Football Club


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Sarahj2107 (talk) 09:59, 24 June 2016 (UTC)

St Athan Football Club

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Non-notable amateur football club at the eighth level in Welsh football. Has never played in a national league or cup, which are the generally accepted criteria for a club to be deemed notable. Prod removed by article's creator. Number  5  7  14:55, 15 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. GiantSnowman 17:34, 15 June 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete - no evidence of notability. GiantSnowman 17:34, 15 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep - It was tagged for deletion in the same day it was created and now on both occasions those tagging the article for deletion didn't notify the creator (me). This hardly seems fair and I think the article should be allowed more than 1 day to grow. The existing citations already place it in a number of newspapers and while I have not yet got the planning application citation, they will be making improvements to the pitch in order to allow seating for when they play in the Wales national league. Seeing as the club is a merger of VIFC and St Athan FC, and I've only so far been going through St Athan's history, I expect even more notable citations will follow when researching VIFC.Drowz0r (talk) 18:29, 15 June 2016 (UTC)
 * P.S. here is my original objection: (Object to deletion - article is very new and already has some notable sources. Given the article was only created yesterday I think we should permit the stub and other contributions to be found before contesting deletion) Drowz0r (talk) 18:30, 15 June 2016 (UTC)
 * The age of an article does not matter if there is consensus on what is deemed notable and the subject fails to meet those criteria. We have a long-standing consensus that clubs like this are not notable. You may want to read the following deletion discussions: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6; these are just a handful of the past discussions on clubs in the same situation as this one. On the other hand Bethesda Athletic F.C. was kept at an AfD because it met these criteria. Number   5  7  18:35, 15 June 2016 (UTC)
 * If a club never reaches out of the bottom league but say, Tony Blair is the team captain and John Major is the goal keeper, then surely the club is notable for different reasons other than performance? While I will agree the clubs performance isn't notable, many other aspects may well be. I'm slowly adding more story to the page (added two citations in the last few minutes actually). I merely ask that I be provided with more than 1 day to make the article ready for such strict measure.Drowz0r (talk) 18:40, 15 June 2016 (UTC)
 * This club does not have any notable aspects. Number   5  7  18:51, 15 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Should the article not be allowed the chance to be notable? I'm literally updating it every few hours. The stub may provide other contributors too.Drowz0r (talk) 19:22, 15 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Unless this club has played in a national league or cup, it's not going to be notable (the only exceptions to this rule that I am aware of are youth clubs such as Wallsend Boys Club because they are well known for the huge number of professional footballers that came from them, and you'll see that article has referneces to several national newspapers and the BBC). I refer you back to AfDs cited above. Number   5  7  19:34, 15 June 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete - club plays well below the level of football deemed notable and seems to have no other significant claim to notability -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:12, 17 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete - fails WP:FOOTYN, has not competed in a national competition. References cited mainly routine match reporting in local newspapers. Fenix down (talk) 07:40, 17 June 2016 (UTC)


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