Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/St Joseph's Evening College, Bangalore


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The result was merge to St Joseph's College, Bangalore.  Sandstein  21:01, 16 September 2018 (UTC)

St Joseph's Evening College, Bangalore

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Advertising based on the own website. Fails WP:GNG The Banner talk 20:22, 9 September 2018 (UTC)
 * The topic itself should be notable, but searching for references leads to numerous press releases and postings by the college. However I have found this: and it gets a mention here:  so there may well be enough independent sources to show notability. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 22:54, 9 September 2018 (UTC)
 * To me, that are just passing mentions that say nothing in-depth. The Banner talk 23:19, 9 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete Despite the fact that this was founded in 1882, I can't find in-depth sources. I could only find one week source to confirm it was founded in 1882. There are probably stacks of newspapers form the 1930s somewhere that mention it, but we do not have them. Fails basic notability test for lack of in-depth coverage. I have cleaned up the article and reduced its promotional nature by removing the notable timelines section, keeping those items that were actually independently sourced.ThatMontrealIP (talk) 00:29, 10 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment Degree-awarding institution and affiliated to Bangalore University as per List of affiliated colleges of Bangalore University.Note this college was not founded in  1882 that is St Joseph's College, Bangalore .This is a independent college separately affiliated  to Bangalore University since 1972 (Please see the list above) .This college is situated in Museum Road while the other college in Lalbhag Road these are 2 different colleges belonging to the same management. Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 00:50, 10 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Note they have separate websites St Joseph's College, Bangalore states established in 1882 and St Joseph's Evening College states 1972 and they have sought separate affiliation from the University.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 01:03, 10 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 04:20, 10 September 2018 (UTC)
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 * Redirect to Bangalore University--An evening college in a city that witnessed a stunning boom of education business over the late twentieth century. (Frankly, my own experience tells me that shall one pick a Bengaluru-street at random, the chance of being greeted with at-least a single college approaches near-certainty.)  Pharaoh of Wizard's analysis has been spot-on (factually) and whilst, St. Joseph college is obviously notable (age and all that stuff) but this one clearly ain't. I'm failing to find even a half-decent reference that minimally covers the college. &#x222F; WBG converse 06:53, 10 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Merge to St. Joseph's College, Bangalore, it looks like the group is still associated with the main college as of this The New Indian Express article. "The institution has four main buildings, located in the center of the Cantonment : St Joseph’s College of Commerce, St Joseph’s Institute of Management (previously St. Joseph’s College of Business Administration), St Joseph’s Evening College and Pre-University College located in the vicinity of St. Patrick’s Church and Good Shepherd Convent, St Joseph’s College, Bengaluru (previously St. Joseph’s College of Arts and Sciences) which is located on Langford Road near Richmond Circle." Each of these schools can have a paragraph from the main article describing its history and then its autonomy, but it is still derived from the main campus. This is a better solution than redirecting to Bangalore University which has like tens of affiliated colleges, which would not give further information as to its history. Also, should decent GNG sources that focus on the Evening College arise, then it can be split off again. The "Under the same management" part and the strong association with 1882 college is why I think it should be merged. You can look at Google maps and see that the pre-university and the evening college are next to each other on Museum Road   36 Lalbagh and 36 Langford Road for the main campus (formerly College of Arts & Sciences) seem to refer to the same name  which is one of the four listed. Autonomous status here seems to mean they can award their own degrees and not on behalf of the main college. But it is still run by St. Joseph's along with the other three schools.  AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 20:58, 11 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep. Independent degree-awarding institution. Affiliated colleges in India are separate institutions, not part of the universities to which they are affiliated. -- Necrothesp (talk) 12:59, 12 September 2018 (UTC)
 * And on what policy or guideline is that based? The Banner talk 13:50, 12 September 2018 (UTC)
 * There's some confusion with this. Its affiliation is with Bangalore University but it is still being run by the same group that manages St. Joseph's College (est. 1882) and the other three institutes. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 16:52, 14 September 2018 (UTC)


 * Merge to St. Joseph's College, Bangalore which is the appropriate parent institution. The overall relationship with Bangalore Univ. is too indirect.  Though all institutions of higher education should be treated as notable, a merge can still be preferable in cases like this, where it is   difficult to distinguish what is and what is not a distinct institution  DGG ( talk ) 06:37, 16 September 2018 (UTC)


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