Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/St Mary Of The Assumption Church, Newcastle


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The result was   delete. - Philippe 02:30, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

St Mary Of The Assumption Church, Newcastle

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Borderline advertising for a non-notable church -- no sources seem to exist for this place. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Broken clamshells•Otter chirps) 03:10, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete non-notable church. Qworty (talk) 03:15, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep. The article argues the architectural distinctiveness of the church at some length. Is there an architect who might care to comment? --Eastmain (talk) 03:27, 8 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep. If an Irish town deserves its own article, its Catholic church might as well have one too. As "the" Catholic church in the town, it's notable in that context (and the article name makes that context clear to any reader). I also think "advertisement" is a bit too cynical an assessment. Anyway, I don't think there's any reason to remove this page, so keep is my vote. However, an alternative might be to merge it into [[Newcastle, County Down]]. -- MQ Duck 03:28, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Northern Ireland-related deletion discussions.   —Eastmain (talk) 03:35, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Christianity-related deletion discussions.   —Eastmain (talk) 03:35, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Merge into Newcastle, County Down. -- brew crewer  (yada, yada) 03:48, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete. Much of the article is taken from the parish's copyrighted web page. Furthermore, no independent reliable sources have been provided, nor have I been able to locate any myself ("St. Mary of the Assumption" seems to be a common name for churches, and "Newcastle" is not an unusual name for a town). Wikipedia precedent is that all towns are notable enough to merit articles -- but churches and other religious congregations must establish notability through coverage in secondary sources per WP:ORG. This one has not. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 04:34, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete No assertion of notability, no sources, possibly a copyvio. Mister Senseless&trade; (Speak - Contributions) 06:19, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete, local orgs require independent RS coverage per WP:ORG, this church doesn't have any. Most churches aren't notable, there's no evidence thie one is any different TravellingCarithe Busy Bee 14:57, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete, I don't see anything to show how this is notable. Thanks to Metropolitan for making a good summary reply.  Nyttend (talk) 21:08, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete No significant independant coverage, and most of the article is a copyvio. Epbr123 (talk) 01:27, 9 May 2008 (UTC)


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