Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/St Paul's Cathedral School


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. (non-admin closure) Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:32, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

St Paul's Cathedral School
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This article seems to be based on a good-faith misconception; from the title this article should be about St Paul's Cathedral School, but the author appears to have actually written an article on the unrelated St Paul's School, about which we already have a more comprehensive article, padded out with some blatant copyright violations from here. Although normally in this situation I'd delete this as routine maintenance, as someone's already contested a prod based on this argument I'll bring it over for a full discussion. I've taken an unusual step of leaving the blatant copyvio material in the article, as removing it will make the article incomprehensible and there seems to be no point in repairing an article that's likely to be deleted; if it is kept, then this needs to be removed.

I do appreciate that this is a valid topic for an article as it's an obviously notable institution, but a "scorched earth" deletion and rebuilding from scratch seems the only viable option here, as every revision of the existing article going back to the original upload appears to be about St Paul's School, not St Paul's Cathedral School. –  iridescent   13:25, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Stub and keep. It seems to me that the first paragraph of the History section appears to draw the needed distinction and observe that the Cathedral School focuses on choral music. The rest of the article appears to bear out the confusion noted and concerns itself with the Colet founded school. - Smerdis of Tlön (talk) 13:57, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I have rewritten the article and found an additional source that seems to be about the right school. - Smerdis of Tlön (talk) 14:16, 15 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Speedy keep. Iridescent's nomination seems to have been valid when he made it but we now have a perfectly good, if short, article.— S Marshall   Talk / Cont  15:06, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of England-related deletion discussions.  -- tedder (talk) 15:08, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions.  -- tedder (talk) 15:08, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete and Recreate, as per nom. We seem to be unanimous here in where we want to end up, the only question is how to get there. This would seem like the simplest approach (even within the constraints of the GFDL). Andy Dingley (talk) 15:12, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep but properly delete the copyvio. Don't mind whether it's done by permanently delete the original revisions or by deleting and reposting the article. Chris Neville-Smith (talk) 18:20, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep and fix any copyvio. TerriersFan (talk) 23:21, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
 * KKeep but fix -- It probably needs more to explain the distinction from St Pauls School and details of when the presetn institution was established. Peterkingiron (talk) 17:51, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep but fix, obviously. I don't understand the logic of the original post: if it is desirable to have an article on the school then why not just rewrite it, rather than delete and then write another????
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

I was the original creator of the page and did so because there was no reference for this particular school. I am a senior member of staff at the Cathedral and have been there for 10 years and am therefore very aware of the schools history. All three schools stem from the same school at St Paul's Cathedral which is why I used the history of the John Colet school for this history because at that point they were the same. Instead of giving detail and history about the school it now seems to be about a sordid event which took place in the past. Disappointing. Ges Nelson —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gesnelson (talk • contribs) 12:20, 8 September 2009 (UTC)