Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Stacey Hollywood


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The result was   no consensus. Stifle (talk) 15:24, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

Stacey Hollywood

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Came across this due to creator's continued uploading of copyvios on the Commons. I've not followed en.wiki for some time, but this appears to be a non-notable person. Links are to the person's personal social media sites. A quick Google search suggests s/he was in an obscure documentary in 1999, but all coverage seems to be about the documentary itself, not about this person. Note also that the article's creator removed a PROD. Эlcobbola talk 22:58, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 02:36, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
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 * Comment: I am finding where the documentary would likely merit an article. If I can find more, I'll try to create the article and then we can just redirect this article to that if there's no coverage for Hollywood herself. I'm not finding much that isn't related to the documentary, to be honest. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)   05:58, 12 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Creature (documentary). I ran into some trouble with sourcing because most of the reviews were pre-Internet, but I found enough to assert notability. Hollywood's coverage (in RS, anyway) seems to mostly center upon that film, so a redirect there would be appropriate. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)   06:42, 12 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Lankiveil (speak to me) 11:27, 18 January 2014 (UTC)

 
 * Keep: I have done some more work to research this article and the subject. While it's true that most information in this article comes from reviews of the award nominated documentary that featured the subject of this article, there are also documented vinyl records and a CD compilation featuring the subject, as well an IMDb entry in her name and numerous magazine articles (which have now been cited in references) that describe the subject in more detail. This in itself, the documentary which was shown at several film festivals and released in theaters, nominated for a GLADD Media Award, shown on Netflix and broadcast on Cinemax, as well as her importance to the history of the LGBT community in West Hollywood should confer enough notoriety to warrant the article and prevent deletion. Goodmitzvah (talk)  —Preceding undated comment added 09:01, 19 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Comment: Recently added references to the article now assert notoriety, film credit, fan base in Los Angeles and recording artist credit credits for WP:ENT. Goodmitzvah (talk) 08:57, 20 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Northamerica1000(talk) 23:50, 26 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Comment: Upon looking at some of the sources, I'm finding that much of them are typical database type entries on places such as AllMusic and Discogs. AM can sometimes give reviews for albums, but they did not review any of Hollywood's albums or singles. These just show that the albums existed and the existence of albums does not automatically equate to notability. We need coverage in newspapers and the like to show notability. I'm still looking through the other sources that were added, but so far the new sources just seem to confirm my earlier notion that Hollywood seems to have really only received coverage for her documentary. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)   04:45, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
 * I was hoping that some of the links added would have shown notability, but the problem here is that none of them give notability. They're either routine database type entries for her albums (which again, cannot show notability as most albums are routinely listed) or they're a routine listing for a night club that doesn't even mention Stacey Hollywood. Once I removed those, the only sources that remained were about the documentary. Even then, most of the ones on there were blog sources that we can't use to show notability and as such, I removed them. When we look at what's left, the sources are pretty much the ones that are on Creature and only really show notability for the documentary. It was about Hollywood, but she doesn't seem to have received any true coverage outside of the film. I wish that more reliable sources existed, but they don't seem to be out there. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)   04:55, 27 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Comment: Stacey Hollywood's music singles are documented on AllMusic. There has not been a general consensus reached on Wikipedia if AllMusic references are not valid as references and they are still used in many articles as references. The Arena nightclub reference that was removed was to reference the size of the club where she hosted, being one of the largest in Los Angeles. Goodmitzvah (talk) 20:44, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
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