Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Stack Jones


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The result was   delete. Akirn (talk) 06:18, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

Stack Jones

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I can find no evidence that this singer meets WP:N or WP:BAND - none of the references given verify the information in the article, and I could find nothing that would help with this. --  Phantom Steve / talk &#124; contribs \ 10:55, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

Apart from the fact that the main editor to this article appears to have a massive conflict of interest, none of the references verify the information given:

The first Spinout gig took place at Manor Lanes Bowling Alley in Fort Lauderdale, Florida.
 * 1. ^ "Ocala Star Banner: Fort Lauderdale Bomb Blast". http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=hXZnTIgIr50C&dat=19840217&b_mode=2.
 * I can't find any reference to "Spinout" in the Ocala Star Banner, or in other newspapers - let alone a mention in articles about Bomb Blast
 * the reference goes to a general listing of copies of the OSB, not to an individual one

Bob Marlowe, entertainment writer for the Miami Herald wrote; "Stack Jones writes tunes that segue into a set like a hand into a well-worn glove. Boring is one adjective I'd never use to describe this guy."
 * 2. ^ Rag Magazine. http://www.ragmagazine.com/contact_us.html
 * this goes to rag magazine's contact page - and rag magazine don't mention Jones that I can see; the Miami Herald (which is what the reference should be) also does not mention Jones

''In 1983, The Spinouts released a single on Pete Moss', Juke Box titled; Shake Like A Hurricane. This compilation album can be found at The Pete Moss Memorial All-Night Record Shop. The record is described as a snapshot of the South Florida punk/new wave scene at the time''
 * 3. ^ Pete Moss Jukebox Compilation: Spinouts; Shake Like A Hurricane. http://www.darvana.com/moss/Jukebox.html
 * the reference does mention that the Spinouts have one track, but no mention of Jones - and the article isn't about the band, but Jones. The total content at that website (which doesn't appear to meet the reliable source criteria) is "“Shake Like A Hurricane” by The Spinouts (featuring Joey Maya from the Reactions). "

In 1985, Jones won Best Guitarist Award at the first Miami Music Awards show
 * 4. ^ Miami Awards. http://www.miamimusicawards.com
 * the reference goes to the current awards. I can't find any coverage of Jones winning this award anywhere

''Jones appeared as a guest speaker on WSVN News Radio, WQAM Miami, Piper High School WKPX radio and University of Miami radio station WVUM. This was during the time when conservatives were trying to impose an Explicit Lyrics and Parental Advisory Labeling scheme on record albums.''
 * 5. ^ Parental Advisory Labeling and Explicit Lyrics. http://www.hushyourmouth.com/parental_advisory_labels.htm
 * the reference makes no mention of Jones
 * the reference is about the Labelling scheme, so not relevant to this article

Jones argued that labeling music would circumvent the First Amendment right of free speech guaranteed under the Constitution of the U.S. [quote of amendment]
 * 6. ^ Free Speech; A Constitutional Guarantee. http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/data/constitution/amendment01/
 * the reference is about the amendment, so not relevant to this article

In 1987, during the Smidek era, Stack Jones and Amazing Grace recorded the band's second album with producer Hal Hansford titled; On And On
 * 7. ^ Hal Hansford Discography. http://www.discogs.com/artist/Hal+Hansford
 * "On and On" isn't on the discography

In 1989, the band recorded an album with nine-time nominated and two-time Grammy Award winning producer Karl Richardson.
 * 8. ^ Karl Richardson Discography. http://www.discogs.com/artist/Karl+Richardson
 * the untitled recording (which was never released, according to the article) isn't listed on the discography - the only listings for 1989 are for a Barbra Streisand album, a Bee Gees compilation and a Dionne Warwick album.

''With all the legal troubles that the band was experiencing, it was difficult to remain a cohesive unit. To make matters worse for the band, Jamie Shoop was hospitalized with severe liver ailments, fell into a coma and nearly died from Tylenol poisoning. At the time it was not known that Acetaminophen (Tylenol) caused serious liver damage. See WebMD.com.''
 * 9. ^ WebMD Tylenol Poisoning. http://www.webmd.com/a-to-z-guides/tylenol-acetaminophen-poisining
 * the reference is about poisoning, not relevant to the article
 * i can find no reference to Jamie Shoop's problems here - and again, this is an article about Jones not the bands he was in

''In 1997, he received audio/video engineering certification from Soundmaster Recording Institute, which was owned and operated by legendary record producer/engineer, and former MCA president, Brian Ingoldsby. The audio/video school has sinced changed its name to Pinnacle College.''
 * 10. ^ Pinnacle College. http://www.pinnaclecollege.edu/
 * the reference just goes to the college site, no relevant to this article
 * I can find no reference to Jones receiving this certification

He began to write and develop projects for Japanese TV production company, Tsuburaya Productions and with two-time Emmy Award winning producer Alan Sacks, [11] creator of Welcome Back Cotter the show that began John Travolta's entertainment career.
 * 11. ^ Alan Sacks IMDB. http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0755286/
 * the reference goes to Sack's IMDB entry - no mention of Jones

Sally got Jack his first break in the film industry when she sent a copy of his screenplay, Vow Of Silence to legendary film producer Marvin Worth
 * 12. ^ Marvin Worth IMDB. http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0941703/
 * the reference goes to Worth's IMDB entry - no mention of Jones

In 1999, Jack Stone was credited for doing stunts for comedian Carrot Top in, Chairman Of The Board.
 * 13. ^ Chairman Of The Board. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0118836
 * IMDB do not list him in the full cast & Crew

2002 Jack Stone is credited for editing the award-winning Young Man Kang, Korean/American film, Soap Girl.
 * 14. ^ Soap Girl. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0304729/
 * IMDB do not list him in the full cast & Crew

The film was released on DVD in 2006.
 * 15. ^ Young Man Kang Productions. http://www.youngmankang.com/
 * confirms that the film was released on DVD, but no mention of him

In 2009, Jones returned to music and signed a recording contract with Cherry Street Records
 * 16. ^ Cherry Street Records. http://cherrystreetrecords.com/
 * just a link to the website - although they sell his music, there is no information about him on the website

Ric O'Barry is notable for his contribution as an animal rights activist and the Academy Award documentary, The Cove
 * 17. ^ Ric O'Barry: The Cove. http://www.thecovemovie.com/
 * the website about the documentary makes no mention of him

Jones is writing a screenplay, and developing a film project based on Pramoedya Ananta Toer's, Bumi Manusia Quartet
 * 18. ^ Pramoedya Toer: The Bumi Manusia Quartet. http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1398034.Bumi_Manusia
 * the reference is about the book, not Jones' involvement

In 2010, Jones is collaborating with Kenneth Andrews, formerly of the band, Casino Drive, [19] and KRH Studios, [20]
 * 19. ^ Casino Drive. http://www.casinodrive.co.jp/
 * no mention of Jones that I can see at the band's website
 * 20. ^ KRH Studios, Tokyo Japan. http://www.krhstudios.jp/
 * no mention of Jones that I can see at the studio's website


 * I can find no reliable sources for any of the information in the article --  Phantom Steve / talk &#124; contribs \ 11:16, 20 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Delete per Nom. Probable COI issues as well. Nominator has done a great analysis. Kittybrewster  &#9742;  11:18, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions.  —--  Phantom Steve / talk &#124; contribs \ 11:19, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete - PhantomSteve did a great job of analyzing the references. I didn't get a chance to review them prior to this but what I have looked for I could not find.   GB fan  talk 11:38, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete Given the analysis above, I see no evidence of notability. Dougweller (talk) 12:09, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete per all of the above. (GregJackP (talk) 16:16, 20 May 2010 (UTC))
 * Delete per the analysis provided above. Fails WP:BIO. --Cameron Scott (talk) 14:14, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete per exhaustive work by nom. Drmies (talk) 16:40, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Snow delete. How can anyone possibly counter Phantomsteve's detailed and devastating analysis?  This material is doomed.— S Marshall  T/C 19:26, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete I came across this article via a copyvio that got uploaded to Commons by Stack. The whole thing is such an obvious ego piece that it's kinda disgusting... EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 19:58, 20 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Notice I just indefinitely blocked the author,, due to his continued poor behavior; specifically, insulting people that have participated in this AfD. (he'd already been blocked as an IP, ) He's not here to improve the encyclopedia, and this was the final straw. EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 13:57, 21 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Delete: no reliable sources or significant coverage, no evidence of real (though plenty of imaginary) notability, massive NPOV issues. The nominator has done an excellent job of researching the "sources"... such as they are. Also, the author seems to be a little bit of a nutjob, such as these two rants: & (massive incivility, asumptions of bad faith, unfounded paranoia, and a story involving Oliver North, drug running, dead Marines, and a plane crash).  bahamut0013  words deeds  16:05, 21 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Delete - Although I do love his implication that British people would obviously only edit an article on an American out of spite. BTW, when deleting an article on EN for non-nobility, is it acceptable to also delete the corresponding non-notable images on Commons? (Commons:Special:Contributions/Stackjones) The deletion process over there takes between 2 weeks to a year. ▫  Johnny Mr Nin ja  05:59, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Usually not unless they go unused for a very long time; the assumption being that they may be useful somewhere else. However, there may be copyright issues to bring up, especially with the .ogg files.  bahamut0013  words deeds 14:06, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Screw that, it's all for spamming, which is covered under Commons' speedy deletion policy. As a result, they're all gone. EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 14:44, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
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