Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Stagecoach Gold bus route X4


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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) ‑‑Trialpears (talk) 08:04, 15 November 2019 (UTC)

Stagecoach Gold bus route X4

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Route not notable enough to warrant its own article Commyguy (talk) 22:31, 30 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep - the coverage in Coach and Bus Weekly, the Northampton Chronicle and the Peterborough Telegraph establish that the article meets our general notability guidelines for me. The Mirror Cracked (talk) 23:29, 30 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Transportation-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 23:48, 30 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of England-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 23:49, 30 October 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete. Nothing out of the ordinary other than a run of the mill bus route with local coverage only. Ajf773 (talk) 17:48, 6 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Worth noting that WP:GNG does not specify that coverage cannot be in local sources, only that they have to be reliable. Also, Coach and Bus Weekly is not a local source, it is a national magazine. The Mirror Cracked (talk) 02:32, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Coach and Bus Weekly covers a lot of bus routes right across the UK. That source alone is not independent enough. Ajf773 (talk) 19:39, 7 November 2019 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Britishfinance (talk) 11:28, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep - Based on The Mirror Cracked's sources. WP:AUD continues to cause problems. If this were a WP:CORP article then it would apply, but it is isn't, instead its about a bus-route that over time can be operated by any company that buys the franchise (i.e., it's not tied to the company), so Ajf773's point about local/niche sources doesn't apply. Similarly the objections based on WP:MILL (an essay) aren't convincing because the instances of WP:SIGCOV in the references provided highlight the reasons to believe that the subject is not "run-of-the-mill" (e.g., the length of the route, the new buses deployed on it, the cost of it etc.) and constitute 7 years of coverage. FOARP (talk) 13:55, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep WP:MILL is just an essay. Sources denote GNG. Lightburst (talk) 14:46, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Coach and Bus Weekly is a trade magazine with no connection to Stagecoach, the local transport authority or any other involved party. The only connection is that Coach and Bus happens to be based in Peterborough through which the route passes, but that doesn't mean it should be classified as a local newspaper. It 'covers a lot of bus routes', but that is a core part of the industry that it reports on. Cleebee2 (talk) 07:27, 8 November 2019 (UTC)


 * Keep - GNG is easily satisfied by reason of the materials pointed out by earlier users. Bookscale (talk) 09:35, 9 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep per The Mirror Cracked.4meter4 (talk) 02:51, 15 November 2019 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.