Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Stahlhelm-Fraktion


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The result was   no consensus. King of &hearts;   &diams;   &clubs;  &spades; 23:50, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

Stahlhelm-Fraktion

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This term is not used at all in the political discussion in Germany, it is most probably an invention by some wikipedia authors. See missing interwikis, missing sources and number of links. --Bahnmoeller (talk) 12:28, 4 August 2010 (UTC) 13:47, 4 August 2010 (UTC)


 * Weak delete - Seems to fail WP:NOTDIC. However, if it is describing a particular political party, it could be expanded into a better article. Missing interwikis, sources, and links are not deletion criteria, but if the term is made up or just a definition, then delete. — GorillaWarfare talk-review me! 13:53, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

I have to repeat: there is nothing with the official or unofficial name "Stahlhelm-Fraktion" in Germany. And because it does not exist you would not find any sources. --Bahnmoeller (talk) 15:45, 4 August 2010 (UTC)


 * Delete Comment - Dictionary definition as it sits. If the term is actually used, this fact needs to be sourced, pronto. Carrite (talk) 16:58, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
 * There's a little history there now, which helps the cause. Carrite (talk) 04:35, 5 August 2010 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Germany-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 18:14, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Politics-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 18:14, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete It is a dictionary definition.  TFD (talk) 18:29, 4 August 2010 (UTC)


 * Weak keep Keep It was easy enough to find the term being used; I added an English use that helpfully glosses it first, and two German uses; I see a use from 2010, but in a location that is unlikely to meet reliable sources standards, and I didn't even go onto the 2nd page of the Google search. However, it is a purely definitional article. It would be nice if one could find some German source discussing the derivation of the term and when it was first coined. I have now also found a source (English-language book) using the term in relation to Weimar-era politics and added that info - and a 2010 citation - to the article, so it is no longer either purely definitional or unreferenced. Yngvadottir (talk) 19:07, 4 August 2010 (UTC)


 * Comment - Still sounds awfully like a definition... — GorillaWarfare talk-review me! 01:27, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete wholly non-encyclopedic, dic def. Bigdaddy1981 (talk) 17:24, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep: the Stahlhelm-Fraktion is no invention of an author but was an influencial political group within German politics in former times; article needs to be improved (members, positions, etc.).  Dewritech  (talk)  13:36, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Hmm - the article purports that this term is in current use and relates to CDU/CSU members. I think that perhaps you are thinking of the term Stahlhelm more generally. Bigdaddy1981 (talk) 02:32, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
 * The term is still in use, but the origin as a distinguished group within CDU/CSU doesn't exist any more.  Dewritech (talk)  07:01, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Mistook your use of the term "former times" to mean Weimar or earlier. Bigdaddy1981 (talk) 18:34, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
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