Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Stan Owens


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The result was no consensus. Redirection can easily be discussed outside of the AFD process, and I see no consensus for outright deletion. Courcelles (talk) 01:21, 5 September 2015 (UTC)

Stan Owens

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Lacks sources that indicate notability. I can't find anything about this person and his occupations and achievements, but a Family Notices page and another in The Sydney Morning Herald 1940s mentions a Stan Owens (which I can't locate in the newspaper due to tons of entries). EDIT: This news article also mentions him with the Macquarie Group (Limited view). TheGGoose (talk) 23:21, 28 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Business-related deletion discussions. Toffanin (talk) 23:29, 28 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Australia-related deletion discussions. Toffanin (talk) 23:29, 28 August 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom Jimfbleak - talk to me?  05:52, 29 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete as my searches found nothing to suggest better sourcing aside from this and this. SwisterTwister   talk  23:43, 29 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment Commander of the Order of the British Empire (CBE) is the lowest rank of that order where it is generally safe to assume notability. However, the article as it stands is just a CV which leaves the reader guessing why he should have received a CBE and why he might be notable. The most likely item on the list is as the first Executive Chairman of Hill Samuel Australia, which became Macquarie Bank two years after his death. Hill Samuel was one of the world's major investment banks during the 1970s and early 1980s, and I would fully expect that documentation (including but not only news articles) from that time would establish his notability. However, I can not find the documentation online, and an article which is nothing more than a CV is not really encyclopedic. Under the circumstances, unless someone improves the article with additional information from reliable sources, the best course of action seems to be to redirect to Macquarie Group, where he is already mentioned. PWilkinson (talk) 17:08, 30 August 2015 (UTC)
 * I totally agree with the above comment. CBE and Executive Chairman of Hill Samuel Australia are clear indicators of notability, but we do not seem to have the sources, so redirect to Macquarie Group.-- Bduke   (Discussion)  21:19, 30 August 2015 (UTC)
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 * Keep. It wasn't terribly difficult to find some basic sources here, although they do confirm that he actually had an OBE, not a CBE. I have pruned the article right back to what I could easily source, but the stuff on Macquarie should be easily sourceable too and that, in conjunction with his role on Sydney City Council (especially in leadership roles in the Civic Reform Association), give a pretty clear indication of notability. Frickeg (talk) 03:47, 3 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep. Plenty of reliable sources on this dude: a couple of hours on Trove and a glance at the in-depth Sydney's Aldermen history project and you could comfortably write a well-sourced article on him. Nominator jumped the gun without looking into what was actually there. The Drover&#39;s Wife (talk) 04:17, 4 September 2015 (UTC)


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