Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Star Simpson (2nd nomination)


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The result was speedy keep, withdrawn by nominator. (non-admin closure) signed,Rosguill talk 01:26, 29 March 2019 (UTC)

Star Simpson
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It's been 12 years since the last AfD for this article, but I think it's still shy of meeting WP:GNG or other guidelines. All coverage in reliable sources appears to be quite trivial; I can find almost no biographical information about the subject in reliable sources beyond their involvement in a few projects of minor notability. The most significant coverage that I've seen between the sources provided and an internet search is this. Additionally, it may be worth noting that some of the article's claims about Tacocopter, one of Simpson's more notable projects, appears to be misleading based on this Wired article. signed,Rosguill talk 23:19, 24 March 2019 (UTC)
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 * Delete Seems no better than the last time it was created, clear delete then and still is. Does not meet WP:GNG. WCM email 08:55, 25 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment struck due to significant improvement in the article and sourcing since I commented. WCM email 15:14, 28 March 2019 (UTC)


 * Comment While tacocopter was indeed just a concept that generated high press hype, the subject's arrest at the train station was a fairly prominent and real news event of the day, indicative of post 9/11 moods. Bradtem (talk) 02:07, 26 March 2019 (UTC)


 * Comment The Wired article referenced above has undisclosed NPV issues. The Chief Editor of Wired at the time, Chris Anderson, was in the process of raising money for his own drone startup, 3DR. The article has other technical inaccuracies, such as referring to Simpson's electronic art as a "hoax explosive device" and referencing Dustin Boyer as a co-founder, despite him having no official association with the project (beyond what he claims). Taking other articles on TacoCopter into account suggests that while it wasn't structured in a way to grow to a functioning company, because of regulatory issues, it did perform a technical demonstration of the underlying concept with real hardware. Cjhandmer (talk) 02:14, 26 March 2019 (UTC)


 * Keep Simpson's former delete page makes several strong points for conditional keep, in the event that Simpson achieved attention for more than the arrest at Boston Logan. Since then Simpson has fairly routinely achieved coverage in national and international news sources in areas related to UAVs, electronic art, and the maker movement. Simpson is one of the most prominent hardware-oriented makers of her generation, and certainly among women of color. I concede that better sourcing is needed for biographical detail and am in the process of improving the article in this regard. Cjhandmer (talk) 02:14, 26 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep I went into this conversation thinking that I might vote to delete, but I did some more searching for sources about Simpson before making a decision. Beyond the Boston Logan arrest, I found numerous articles in the New York Times, Forbes, The Verge, and Vanity Fair that covered Simpson's life and work. The story that convinced me to vote to keep this article was learning about Star's role as the central source in a 2018 New York Times investigation that motivated over 20,000 Google employees worldwide to walk out in protest of the company's handling of sexual harassment claims. This story led to the resignation of multiple Google executives in 2018. I have updated the article to include those sources. Given Simpson's status as an internationally-recognized whistleblower, I vote that the article should remain. Rubberpaw (talk) 02:56, 26 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep Internationally recognized whistleblower: ✓, One of the most prominent women of color in the hardware maker community: ✓, and of course, arrested during a post 9/11 bomb scare that also created international headlines: ✓. Though the article could be cut down and edited. 73.92.231.99 (talk) 02:08, 27 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Withdraw I've been swayed by arguments and would be happy to withdraw the AfD, but as Bradtem WCM also voted delete, they need to agree as well. signed,Rosguill talk 05:11, 27 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep I did not vote delete, I left a comment moderately in favour.  Where do you get I voted delete?   While tacocopter was a concept rather than real service, it was a notable concept.  Bradtem (talk) 01:11, 28 March 2019 (UTC)
 * , sorry, I copied the wrong name, I meant to ping User:Wee Curry Monster signed,Rosguill talk 01:27, 28 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep Passes WP:SIGCOV and subsequently WP:BIO. A solid keep. I see it has been Afd withdrawn. The consensus is for a keep. I will close this.  scope_creep Talk  13:42, 28 March 2019 (UTC)


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