Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Star Wars marathon


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The result was   no consensus. (non-admin closure) treelo  radda  19:04, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

Star Wars marathon

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Lacking WP:RS to confirm this is a genuine cultural phenomenon, I don't see the notability of this article. I am also wondering whether the marathon includes The Star Wars Holiday Special (what's worse -- Jar-Jar Binks in Episode 1 or Beatrice Arthur singing in the Holiday Special?) Ecoleetage (talk) 15:44, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep - I've added some more copy with sources from the BBC and Sky News among others. It's s frequently used expression (12,500 GHits for "Star Wars Marathon" and 64 if we limit the search to news articles.  I have to say, having seen both...  Jar Jar is better than Bea Arthur's singing, which in turn is better than Carrie Fisher's singing in the Holiday Special! ;-)  --  JediLofty Talk to meFollow me 16:16, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment Nice references, JediLofty, but that takes us in another direction -- you are pointing out standalone, one-shot marathon screenings tied to a specific anniversary (the notability of that is questionable, I think). The article is making this marathon viewing appear to be some sort of a regular happening where people watch all of the films.  Or am I off-base? (At least no one is slamming Jefferson Starship's appearance in the Holiday Special.) Ecoleetage (talk) 16:42, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
 * The references go some way to proving that the term "Star Wars Marathon" is a frequently-used term. I've been party to several AfDs where the subject of an article has shifted significantly during the debate, so maybe this is one of those cases.  There are a few more very good results from the Google search I did last night that I will include when I get the chance. --  JediLofty Talk to meFollow me 08:38, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I've added another couple of references that go towards verifying the original direction of the article. One interesting idea that I'd not thought of doing before is to watch Episodes IV and V, then watch Episodes I, II and III as a flashback, then finish with Episode VI.  I think I might have to try that when I have a spare day! --  JediLofty Talk to meFollow me 16:38, 24 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Weak keep However this article needs expansion. I think we can all agree star wars marathons happen relatively frequently, movie theaters have specials for just such occasions, etc.  However, more sources stating this and in general a better overview of the "phenomenom" would be required. --Banime (talk) 18:16, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete or merge into Star Wars. Can be summarised in three or four sentences, which doesn't necessitate a separate article. – sgeureka t•c 19:37, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep & Expand - Very worthwhile, but needs filling out.-- King Bedford I Seek his grace  17:29, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete or merge into Star Wars. The original movies were a cultural phenomenon that created the "desire" for marathons - it's been done since with The Matrix and Lord of the Rings.  There is no need to include a separate article, but can be included with the original when discussion importance of the phenomenon itself.  BMW  (drive)  18:28, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep I feel that this article should be kept. It is a genuine phenomonen amongst Star Wars fans, and this can be proved by a simple online search. Yes, there have been official Star Wars marathons, but the phenomenon exists outside of that as it is an event that most Star Wars fans will have experienced, either publically or in the comfort of their own homes. I suggest that the article remains. --Bravo Plantation (talk) 19:31, 24 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete a foo marathon is where fans watch all the films in the foo franchise back to back. End of, really.  Back when I saw my first one of these, there was no neologism for it.  Makes no odds.  This belongs on a fan-wiki, not Wikipedia. Guy (Help!) 21:09, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Addendum: Please do not try to avert deletion by bloating the article with material from unreliable sources like fanpop and ehow. Guy (Help!) 21:45, 26 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep I don't know of this 'Foo' of which you speak, but I understand what you are saying. If I interpret you correctly, you are saying that it is possible for any film franchise to have a marathon. This of course is correct, however the Star Wars marathon is a notable phenomenon and the most popular of any such events, therefore it is my opinion that the article does belong on Wikipedia and should be kept. --Bravo Plantation (talk) 21:39, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment - please don't !vote more than once. I have struck through your "Keep" on this line.--  JediLofty Talk to meFollow me 12:53, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Popular culture-related deletion discussions.   --  Fabrictramp  |  talk to me  21:54, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete per JzG. Do we need Sex and the City marathon and every other Foo marathon there is? This is essentially no more than a dicdef and a directory of previous Star Wars marathons. Calliopejen1 (talk) 18:20, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete as there is nothing cultural about this marathon. Ottre 08:00, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  treelo  radda  00:32, 28 September 2008 (UTC)


 *  Weak delete Merge. This is a weird one. It meets WP:N pretty clearly, but in my personal opinion, isn't something we want to here.  But I don't see a policy problem.  So IAR and weak delete .  Weird for an inclusionist. Changed mind: The problem I have with this, is that I think, while notable, it's too trivial for an article.  And the Star Wars merge just seemed wrong.  But a merge to "movie marathon" or some such would be fine.  That let's us keep notable material and not have this article... Hobit (talk) 02:21, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Week Keep. Genuine cultural phenomenon, also predicted in various science fiction novels. (I think it shows up in Neuromancer but maybe I'm mis-remembering.)  Would also support creating an article about marathon screenings of this sort in general as an alternative to this one. Crypticfirefly (talk) 04:28, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete. Has no use on Wikipedia as marathons have no reason to have an article on Wikipedia whatsoever due to their lack of notability. Whats next, an article about every time Regis Philbin went to bed?. Mythdon (talk) 04:59, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Merge - I can see the value in an article on the phenomenon of marathon screenings and suggest that an article on this would be a better idea. I think I recall recent marathon screenings of Rocky, Die Hard and Alien. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 05:17, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

Inquiry Its been five days now......when will we find out if this article is to stay or go? --Bravo Plantation (talk) 13:37, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

If the ridiculous decision to remove this article is made, can an appeal be made? --Bravo Plantation (talk) 15:47, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Another five days from now. Ottre 16:05, 28 September 2008 (UTC) WP:DRV. Ottre 16:09, 28 September 2008 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.