Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Starchaser: The Legend of Orin


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was keep. John254 01:30, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

Starchaser: The Legend of Orin

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This article is unreferenced and consists almost entirely of a lengthy plot summary. There is not much "out there" about this film; one of the comments on IMDB is along the lines of "at last, I spent years trying to prove this exists". Well, I can be pretty confident it exists, but it's not obvious that there's anything other than directory style and user-edited sources for this. I can't even find evidence of an MPAA rating, which is pretty basic stuff. Guy (Help!) 12:11, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep ~ I admit the plot summary is way to long.  However, the author did peak my interest in the opening sentence; “…was one of the first animated movies to mix traditional and computer animation.”  I would rather have this article tagged with “Maintenance” templates for improvement, development and expansion, other than plot, and see if it can be brought along.  I hate to throw the baby out with the bathwater.  Shoessss |  Chat  13:03, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
 * But can you find any source for that? I couldn't. Guy (Help!) 14:37, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Just going with the date when the picture was released, which is verified, lends crediance to statement; "... was one of the first...". That is way I suggested "Maintanance" tags versus Deletion to give an editor some time to expand.  I am in agreement with you, right now the artical is nothinh more than a plot summary.  However, that is why we can also just "Stub" the piece rather than deleting.  Shoessss |  Chat   —Preceding comment was added at 14:51, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I found a source on Factiva that says it was the first 3D animated film:
 * "Mr. Hahn was soon ready for a new challenge. Rather than just producing pieces made by other studios, Mr. Hahn wanted to create entirely new animation in a style never seen before. The answer, for Mr. Hahn, was to make a three-dimensional animation film....


 * The result, 'Starchaser: The Legend of Orin,' opened in 1,100 theaters in the United States in 1985, earning $4.5 million, a more than respectable sum in those days. Despite the success, the film's distributor went bankrupt, resulting in a long and costly court battle. A disillusioned Mr. Hahn produced just two more works in the '90s.


 * Now 65, Mr. Hahn arrived in Korea to pick up an award at the Seoul International Cartoon & Animation Festival, which opened last Wednesday. The award is in recognition of Mr. Hahn's producing the world's first 3-D animation film.... "
 * (Jung Hyung-mo. "Director wins award for 1st 3-D animation". Joongang Ilbo. 29 May 2006.) Zagalejo^^^ 21:38, 2 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Comics and animation-related deletions.  -- Hiding T 17:04, 2 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Keep Did you look at Google News? Seems to have received several reviews. Zagalejo^^^ 21:28, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I've added a quote from the NYT review. It's not a flattering quote, but is contemporary to the movie's release. Hiding T 21:34, 2 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Weak Keep It needs a LOT of work, but I'm inclined to give the creator the benefit of the doubt if he can possibly reference some things better using reputable sources. Apparently, the character designer in this later went on to do other things like Titan AE, and a DVD exists in the Region 1 market (which may potentially have further information). Adding maintenance tags is a must. There's also a trailer on YouTube if anybody cares to take a looksee: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=masIAvbP2fA&feature=related Kensuke Aida 23:05, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I don't see the creator doing much, creating this was his one and only edit. Not that this mitigates against fixing; fixing is good. Guy (Help!) 23:29, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
 * keep article needs work, but I see nothing here that should cause it to be deleted.Ridernyc 23:07, 3 December 2007 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.