Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Starshy leytenant


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The result was redirect to Senior Lieutenant. (non-admin closure) Kraxler (talk) 17:42, 17 July 2015 (UTC)

Starshy leytenant

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This article would be an instant WP:CSD if its content were not so much better than the previous Senior lieutenant. The best outcome would be for the material to be located at Senior lieutenant and Starshy leytenant redirected there. That would seem to me non-controversial, however the author User:HHubi insists on this title as "the correct transcription of the Russian wording", and dislikes the translation. To avoid WP:3RR, here we are. Bazj (talk) 12:56, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Merge reliably sourced content to senior lieutenant and delete this article, per nom. Peacemaker67 (crack... thump) 13:06, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
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 * Comment. Note that the editor in question has created or contributed to many similar articles about ranks in other languages. The whole corpus of articles on ranks on Wikipedia needs a huge overhaul. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:16, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Senior lieutenant; that article contains essentially the same information. WP:TITLE is clear that Wikipedia pages should normally have English-language titles, unless the foreign-language phrase is widely used in English-language sources, and a very brief survey suggests that "senior lieutenant" is the term normally used in English-language sources for this rank. Colapeninsula (talk) 14:25, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Merge and redirect per nom. AustralianRupert (talk) 15:00, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Redirect per nom. I did the merge last night - you can see the results at Senior lieutenant.  User:HHubi merely reverted my creation of a redirect at Starshy leytenant, which is how we ended up here.  Shem (talk) 17:27, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment - I agree wholeheartedly with Necrothesp - the ranks at Wikipedia are in a complete mess. The guidance at  Article_titles says "On the English Wikipedia, article titles are written using the English language." Thus we should have an article at Senior lieutenant with redirects from Starshy leytenant, Oberleutnant, Yliluutnantti and any others out there. Shem (talk) 17:27, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Merge and redirect - per nomination. Anotherclown (talk) 21:48, 13 July 2015 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.