Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Statistical Lempel-Ziv


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The result was delete. The editor who offered the only "keep" opinion later wrote that the sourcing he found may be problematic.  Sandstein  15:19, 29 September 2018 (UTC)

Statistical Lempel-Ziv

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Notability concerns; the only references are primary sources (the research papers introducting the algorithm). power~enwiki ( π, ν ) 00:49, 30 August 2018 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete - For reasons noted above. Subject does not meet general notability requirements. Meatsgains (talk) 02:04, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Yunshui 雲 水 13:18, 6 September 2018 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, KCVelaga (talk) 00:26, 14 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete LZMA uses a statistical Lempel-Ziv approach, but that point doesn't seem to be widely discussed. As such, it might be worth a brief mention in the LZMA article. But I have been unable to find multiple in depth secondary sources discussing these particular primary sources. Hence delete or perhaps merge a sentence into LZMA with the secondary ref above would be reasonable outcomes. -- 02:16, 14 September 2018 (UTC)
 *  strong Keep -- A google scholar search (of the name of the article in quotes) shows that a number of the secondary sources do call it by the name created in the original paper.   For example  says "A  variant  of  the  Lempel-Ziv Algorithm called Statistical Lempel-Ziv Compression Algorithm  was  used  in  a  study  to  compress  text  and  C  files [14]."  Rathore  has a long section starting: "Statistical Lempel-Ziv was a concept created by Dr. Sam Kwong  and  Yu  Fan  Ho  in  2001.  The  basic  principle  it operates  on  is  that  a  statistical  analysis  of  the  data  can  be combined   with   an   LZ77-variant   algorithm   to   further optimize what codes are stored in the dictionary."  I see enough references in secondary sources by that name to give it a keep.  --David Tornheim (talk) 09:34, 20 September 2018 (UTC) [revised 10:16, 25 September 2018 (UTC) noting that some of the articles are from a predatory journal.]
 * Could you all take a look at the sources I dug up and see if you think it is notable? --David Tornheim (talk) 04:18, 24 September 2018 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Relisting per new information presented later in the discussion.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 02:13, 22 September 2018 (UTC)


 * Comment if the research paper has been cited in a few other research papers, that's generally not enough coverage to justify an article. power~enwiki ( π, ν ) 04:23, 24 September 2018 (UTC)
 * The Rathore article (Y Rathore, MK Ahirwar, R Pandey, "A Brief Study of Data Compression Algorithms", in (IJCSIS) International Journal of Computer Science and Information Security, Vol. 11, No. 10, October 2013) (the fifth item in this Google scholar search) is not original research but a review of existing research:


 * Abstract—This paper  present  survey  of  several  lossless  data compression  techniques  and  its corresponding  algorithms.  A set  of  selected  algorithms  are  studied  and  examined.  This paper concluded by stating which algorithm performs well for text data.
 * I am not sure why it has such glaring English grammar errors. Maybe because engineers wrote and reviewed it?  :)
 * --David Tornheim (talk) 09:58, 25 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Also, this is another review article (Upasana Mahajan, Prashanth C.S.R, "Algorithms for Data-Compression in Wireless Computing Systems", IJCSNS International Journal of Computer Science and Network Security, VOL. 14, No.9, September 2014.):
 * This paper  presents  the  survey  of various lossless data compression algorithms. [from Absract]
 * However, it does appear that that journal may be predatory with a pay-to-play funding scheme. Even though it does show up in Google Scholar.  --David Tornheim (talk) 10:10, 25 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Actually, it appears that journal is on Beall's list here. That calls the secondary sources I had found into question...  --David Tornheim (talk) 10:16, 25 September 2018 (UTC)


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