Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Steak Escape (2nd nomination)


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The result was no consensus.  Sandstein  18:14, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

Steak Escape
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Appears to be an NCORP fail. Searches turn up trivial news about franchisees. Existing references are weak or self-published. Tagged for notability since 2011. ThatMontrealIP (talk) 02:27, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Business-related deletion discussions. ThatMontrealIP (talk) 02:27, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
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 * Keep Doing a search on "News" and Google reveals sources that can be used to expand and help refine the article. It appears they filed for chapter 11 bankruptcy. They have also expanded to other countries per that source and others in the article. A restaurant in multiple countries and in over 100 cities with sources satisfies notability. AmericanAir88(talk) 14:59, 24 August 2019 (UTC)
 * NCORP says no inherent notability, so even if they have a branch on the moon they are not going to be notable without coverage. All I saw in Gnews and GBooks are articles like this, which fail the sigcov/reliable/independent test:
 * Muscat Daily:"Lovers of Steak Escape Sandwich Grill’s soul filling American-style cuisine will have plenty of reasons to rejoice with the launch of new flavoursome sandwiches and desserts. Designed to take its popular cheesesteaks and sandwiches to the next level..."
 * WLBT:"Byram entrepreneur opens new Steak Escape restaurant"
 * WBBJ:"Steak Escape holds grand opening in Jackson...A new sandwich shop held its grand opening Tuesday afternoon in north Jackson."
 * Herald-Dispatch: "Sabatino’s Sandwich Kitchen, a Charleston-based restaurant, will open its first Huntington location at 2013 5th Ave. on Jan. 5, 2017. The space is currently a Steak Escape."
 * the Blade: "Steak Escape to serve up new location in Maumee(Conant Crossing store to get expanded menu)"
 * Dawn.com (this one is actually decent, but I wonder abotu the independence of the author):"Steak Escape: Ohio's famous steak burgers make their way to Karachi"
 * Annual Franchise and Distribution Law Developments - Page 83:"BDK, Donna Kittilson and Bian Markee owned seven Steak Escape franchises, they obtained from Escape Enterprises and its successor in interest, Escape Enterprises, Ltd."
 * Restaurant Business, Volume 95:"For Steak Escape, a 109-unit steak-sandwich chain based in Columbus, Ohio, Idaho Potato Commission-sponsored materials help in the marketing and advertising effort. "We use our packaging to communicate the high- quality work we do..."
 * Essentials of Economics:"Would life be worse if there were only Steak Escape at the local food court? Yes, it would be if you'd rather have a slice of pizza from Sbarro's, or you don't eat beef."
 * And so on.ThatMontrealIP (talk) 16:10, 24 August 2019 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, RL0919 (talk) 09:33, 25 August 2019 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete There are sources that mention the subject but they seem to not elaborate enough as to establish sufficient notability. Ktrimi991 (talk) 21:23, 1 September 2019 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   06:13, 4 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep per AmericanAir88's rationale. This is a notable franchise with multiple locations the article has WP:RS. WP:PRESERVE  Business Journal, and (international) opening ten outlets in the United Arab Emirates. Wm335td (talk) 19:45, 4 September 2019 (UTC)
 * I looked and could not find anything in NCORP saying if you have multiple franchises you are notable. It does say that trivial coverage includes "standard notices, brief announcements, and routine coverage, such as... the opening or closing of local branches, franchises", which seems to be what most of the sourcing, including the Trade Arabia source for ten outlets in the United Arab Emirates is. I'd be all for keep if someone can produce some non-trivial SIGCOV in multiple independent sources on the subject. ThatMontrealIP (talk) 23:17, 4 September 2019 (UTC)


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