Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Steamin' and Dreamin': The Grandmaster Cash Story (3rd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   Speedy delete Non-admin closure. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many otters • One bat • One hammer) 14:56, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

Steamin' and Dreamin': The Grandmaster Cash Story
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Non-notable indie film. This article was previously up for AfD and the decision was to userfy, so that the original author could fix the problems. He has posted the article again and unfortunately, the fixes do nothing to change my mind that this is a small, locally-produced mockumentary that has received scant attention outside of Cork. It has been viewed at one local film festival, and while it was well-received there, that apparently is it as far as viewings. References have problems: three are from blogs and therefore not reliable, and three more are to publications that have no online link to the article, and therefore cannot be easily verified. In particular, Hot Press has an extensive archive but only turns up a passing mention of it as "Steamin’ + Dreamin’, available locally on DVD." Everything given seems to point to this as a local phenomenon, which is fine for notability of people and places, but not films. This still comes across as something that primarily exists as a means of promoting a non-notable film (even if it is not being done by someone directly connected to the film, as the author claims), and none of the changes since the first AfD have convinced me otherwise. - Realkyhick (Talk to me) 16:39, 20 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Update: This article was deleted through an AfD in November 2009, and there has not been a deletion review to reconsider it. Move to speedy delete. You know, I thought we had already hashed this out before, but I couldn't find the second AfD until Twinkle popped it up when I put up this AfD. Sorry. Admins, take it from here. - Realkyhick (Talk to me) 16:42, 20 March 2010 (UTC)
 * http://www.hotpress.ie/archive/6300692.html is the link to the article as found in the cited edition of Hot Press. Feel free to subscribe and check it out for yourself. The wiki article does not promote the film, it acts as an objective account of its production. It in no way tries to market the film as a product. As I've said before, national coverage on screen and in print are considerably more than "scant attention outside of Cork". Baron Ronan Doyle of Sealand (talk) 19:20, 20 March 2010 (UTC)


 * What the heck. User moved the article to userspace and then undid it. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many otters • One bat • One hammer) 02:47, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
 * The undo was over the course of four months. I had forgotten the second AfD until Twinkle found it in the process of initiating this discussion. I think both the main space article and the user space article should be deleted. - Realkyhick (Talk to me) 03:59, 21 March 2010 (UTC)


 * I have deleted the article and salted it for a year. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 06:06, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.