Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Stefan Fischer


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The result was   delete. Secret account 05:37, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

Stefan Fischer

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Not notable, no reliable sources. Fails our notability guidelines. -- Patar knight - chat/contributions 01:37, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

Sifu Fischer is the pre-eminent Wing Tsun practictioner in Australia. He's been profiled in many magazines and has published over 50 articles. He has notability if only Australia were in the 21st century as regards to online newspapers and magazines so his citations were more easily accessible. Any martial artist in Wing Chung or Wing Tsun would know or want to know who he is. The Librarian at Terminus (talk) 17:16, 15 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Sources don't have to be online. If he's profiled in many magazines it should be easy to give them as sources.  Just be sure the sources are reliable and independent.Mdtemp (talk) 19:54, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
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 * Delete He doesn't seem to meet any of the criteria at WP:MANOTE. Almost all of the sources are from his club, which is not independent.  Many previous discussions have made it clear that rank has no bearing on notability.  I'm willing to change my vote if notability is shown through reliable sources.Mdtemp (talk) 19:54, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — Theopolisme   ( talk )  02:19, 20 February 2013 (UTC)


 * Keep Apologies if this isn't the proper format to talk here. Fischer appears in Blitzmag quite a bit, which is the equivalent of the US BLack Belt Magazine. Here's a link: http://www.blitzmag.net/people/kungfu-taichi-qigong/69-black-belt-journeys. Not all of BLitzmag's articles are online. The Librarian at Terminus (talk) 14:47, 21 February 2013 (UTC)

He also has "lineage," very important in gung fu. Several of his students have gone onward and upward. Link for Thommy Luke Boehlig, a martial artist and television personality in Germany who claims Fischer as his instructor: http://www.wingtsjun.com/Organization-Founder.1617.1.html. Martial artist and businessman "Fighternman" Fernandez also claims Sifu Fischer as his instructor. http://www.everythingwingchun.com/sifu-fernandez-wing-tchun-do-dvds-books-s/274.htm The Librarian at Terminus (talk) 16:11, 21 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Lineage is not important in Wikipedia (see WP:NOTINHERITED). The article you linked is a start, but it doesn't really talk about Fischer, it's him talking about ranks in his style.Mdtemp (talk) 21:18, 21 February 2013 (UTC)


 * Delete I see nothing to show this subject meets WP:MANOTE or WP:GNG since the article's sources aren't independent.204.126.132.231 (talk) 19:56, 25 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete I couldn't find the sources necessary to support the claims of notability and don't believe the article's sources show that he meets WP:MANOTE or WP:GNG. Papaursa (talk) 04:20, 27 February 2013 (UTC)


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