Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Stefan Kočev


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The result was delete both articles. Deor (talk) 17:04, 26 July 2014 (UTC)

Stefan Kočev

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 * Futbol vic (talk) 08:40, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

Contested PROD. Concern was Article about a footballer who fails WP:GNG and who has not played in a fully pro league. PROD was contested with a claim that the Macedonian First League is fully pro, a claim that is not supported by reliable sources. Sir Sputnik (talk) 20:34, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

I am also nominating the following article for the same reason. Sir Sputnik (talk) 20:35, 15 July 2014 (UTC)


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 * Delete both - fail WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTBALL. GiantSnowman 20:43, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
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My claim was gotten from the first paragraph of the First Macedonian Football League. Futbol vic (talk) 08:40, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

If this is the source deciding that the Macedonia Prva Liga is unprofessional then I suggest that it should be looked at. http://web.archive.org/web/20070519070722/http://www.jadransport.org/articles/3786.html Futbol vic (talk) 08:44, 16 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Comment No one isn't saying the league isn't professional. The claim is that it isn't fully professional. It's not that players aren't paid to play ... but that is their only employment of all players in the league. If that's so, then simply provide some evidence of this, in any language, and the league will be added to WP:FPL. This may seem unfair and reek of WP:BIAS, but that's Wikipedia for you ... Alternatively, you could provide media references (in any language) that the player is notable, with significant media coverage. Though even I think that does seem unlikely with only 2 professional appearances. Nfitz (talk) 22:55, 19 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete - Fail WP:NFOOTY as have not played senior international football nor played in a fully professional league. No indication that subjects have garnered significant reliable coverage for any other achievements to satisfy GNG. The link provided above is quite old and may well be out of date but actually seems to specifically imply that this league, at least in 2007 was definitely not FULLY professional, as required by NFOOTY, as it states that there were only three professional clubs in the league. Fenix down (talk) 10:33, 16 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete - no evidence of notability on Kočev. I don't think that Blažeski should be part of this nomination. I'm not seeing the similarity - much more experienced player with lots of starts and older. Nfitz (talk) 03:10, 26 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete Both - They aren't deemed notable as they haven't played in a fully professional league nor have they any international caps. IJA (talk) 10:38, 26 July 2014 (UTC)
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