Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Stefan Mychajliw (3rd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete and salt. Randykitty (talk) 22:14, 9 December 2022 (UTC)

Stefan Mychajliw
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This is the THIRD time this page has been recreated, see here The Second Discussion Overall, I would argue this is a GNG violation Cleave and Smite, Delete and Tear! (talk) 17:16, 1 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Politicians, Journalism,  and New York.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 20:00, 1 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep: notable and improve-able  —¿philoserf? (talk) 21:49, 1 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Also, the number of time an articles has been created of deleted has no standing. This subject stands as it is today and should be judged for today. What was not worth keeping in 2014 or 2018 bares no relation to late 2022. Our world is not static. —¿philoserf? (talk) 21:53, 1 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete. The positions he held (county comptroller, local newscaster) do not inherently convey notability, and no significant coverage to suggest he's out of the ordinary. He ran for a number of positions that would have certainly been notable... if he had won. But trying for such a position and finishing thirds does not make the cut. TJRC (talk) 01:44, 2 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep: This figure is a controversial and important politician and journalist from Western New York.  His life has been chronicled in over 500 newspaper articles, TV interviews and blogs; he has appeared on national news a multitude of times, has been a candidate for federal office and is arguably more notable that lesser-known NY politicians like Angela Wozniak or Joel Giambra, to name just a few.  He is currently pursuing public office; and he is extremely relevant to current affairs in Western New York, a huge geographic area.  Deleting this page is a mistake and a disservice to notable, local, politicians everywhere.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by KittyHawk2014 (talk • contribs) 04:41, 2 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete. People still do not get articles just for serving as county comptrollers, or for standing as non-winning candidates for higher offices — to be notable for either of those purposes, he would have to be shown to have nationalizing coverage establishing not just a reason why he was notable within Western New York, but a credible reason why he was notable across the entire United States, which is entirely absent here. Once I discount the primary sourcing that isn't support for notability at all (Our Campaigns, YouTube, his wedding registry at Kohl's and the paid-inclusion obituary of his mother), what's left is purely run of the mill coverage within Buffalo's local media market, of a type and depth and volume that's merely expected to always exist for every local politician in every media market. Again, what would have to be shown is that he has a credible claim to being seen as a special case of significantly greater notability than most other county comptrollers or non-winning town or county council candidates in the United States — which has not been shown at all. And neither is it Wikipedia's job to keep articles about everybody who's currently pursuing public office, either — we are not the media, and "equal time for every candidate in the election" is not our mandate. Our job here is to look past the daily news cycle, and ask ourselves "if this person accomplishes absolutely nothing else in his life, such that what's already true today is the absolute peak of his notability for all time, then is this already enough that people on the other side of the country will still be looking for an article about him a decade from now?" — and nothing here is giving me an affirmative answer to that. Bearcat (talk) 21:13, 3 December 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete and salt per previous AFDs. Stifle (talk) 15:13, 9 December 2022 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.