Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Stefano Nonveiller


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The result was delete. North America1000 07:55, 2 October 2015 (UTC)

Stefano Nonveiller

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I'm basically starting as a separate nomination from Articles for deletion/Stefano de Nonveiller as I found nothing to suggest better improvement here and actual existence is also a question. Notifying and. BTW, an IP at that nomination commented if the other Nonveillers were fabricated but this seems to be an actual name and those other articles have sources, these (Stefano Nonveiller) have none so these are especially questionable. SwisterTwister  talk  08:03, 17 September 2015 (UTC)
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 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Comment: I'm not sure whether or not these are hoaxes. I can't find anything in English to suggest that either person exists. It is possible that since these people are from Croatia that coverage may exist in Croatian, but usually if someone is notable enough to be included in Wikipedia there will be discussion somewhere about these people in English. They might not be considered reliable sources, but there's usually something out there that isn't a mirror or someone reposting the Wikipedia article. It's very rare (although it does happen, especially in non "mainstream" languages) that someone will have no presence in English language sources. The only thing that gives me pause is that the same editor also created Guido Nonveiller and Anica Nonveiller. The scientist does appear to have been a real person, per the NLA having him listed in their records and this article at FAO of The UN. Similar evidence of existence can be found for the other person. This gives me some reason to suspect that the other two people might have existed, but the issue here is that we just don't have any good evidence to back this up. I'm going to go ask for help from WP:CROATIA to see if they can look for sourcing in Croatian. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)  08:22, 17 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete. I could not find any online sources about the person; in particular, there are zero Google hits in the Croatian internet domain . (I had some doubts too about Guido Nonveiller, but he checks out as a real person without any doubt.) I don't see any particular reason to doubt the veracity of the article, but I'd rather err on the side of caution - that is, in favor of WP:V. GregorB (talk) 11:15, 17 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment -- I queried in the previous AFD (on the other Stefano) whether the article might not be true. The consensus was the other way, so that I am not opposing deletion.  I suspect that we are dealing with fairly minor municipal functionaries, whom might be NN anyway.  Peterkingiron (talk) 15:56, 20 September 2015 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 02:10, 25 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete - Searches turned up nothing to show they meet the notability criteria.  Onel 5969  TT me 03:04, 25 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete, it's barely verifiable online (found cursory mentions in two Croatian books found by Google Books), so unless someone provides actual references, it seems to fail WP:GNG. --Joy &#91;shallot&#93; (talk) 08:37, 27 September 2015 (UTC)


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