Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Stella Maris Church, Cayman Brac


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was speedy keep. AfD withdrawn--see my note below  DGG ( talk ) 21:47, 14 June 2016 (UTC)

Stella Maris Church, Cayman Brac

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not notable church. Speedy declined as outsides A7 scope, but a church is an organization.  DGG ( talk ) 05:19, 14 June 2016 (UTC)
 * The article is referenced, it has a neutral wording, and is no different than hundreds of other articles of similar religious buildings such as mosques, synagogues, Buddhist temples, etc. The importance of these buildings varies according to personal opinion. In this case the building stands out because it is the only Catholic church on the island. Religion is part of the culture of a country. And thus it is always relevant. I just participated in wikipedia in English because I want to contribute with specific data that I think are relevant.--Warairarepano&#38;Guaicaipuro (talk) 13:32, 14 June 2016 (UTC)


 * Keep. I edited the article to add the "stand out" assertion that it is the only Catholic church on the island, and to reflect that the church is an organization as well as a building (as articles on churches should, and generally do).  I also added other info and an external link. I agree with Guaicaipuro that the article is referenced and is neutrally worded, and also that the dividing line on notability of churches is not black & white.  Being the only church of its religion on an island is not a regular notability standard, of course, but maybe it works here?  And it seems unusual to me that the it is part of the archdiocese of Detroit, Michigan.  But it would be more obviously notable if some horrific news-transfixing event had happened there or if other more independent sourcing was found.
 * If the outcome of this AFD is not to Keep, then the material should be merged to somewhere, perhaps the Archdiocese of Detroit article which mentions the Cayman Islands and includes a table of notable churches. There is no separate Religion in the Cayman Islands article (currently a redlink) where it could go, but I find there is an article section Demographics of the Cayman Islands.  It could be covered in both that section and the archdiocese of Detroit article, but rather than repeating the information it may be best to keep it covered in one place, and given brief links from the other two.  This avoiding-repetition/saving-space argument is a valid type of justification for having a separate article that comes up occasionally but I think is not mentioned in our guidelines for keeping or deleting articles. -- do  ncr  am  17:47, 14 June 2016 (UTC)
 * I'm withdrawing the AfD. A little further reading has clarified for me that this particular church has a very exceptional jurisdictional arrangement (at least very exceptional  for the present time) ,and that this might reasonably be a justification for a separate article.  DGG ( talk ) 21:46, 14 June 2016 (UTC)


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