Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Stepanakert pogrom


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. The consensus is that the article passes WP:GNG and is therefore notable. There is also some agreement that the article needs to be improved, and to that, I say WP:DINC. (non-admin closure)  Bait30   Talk 2 me pls? 18:04, 30 September 2020 (UTC)

Stepanakert pogrom

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No reliable sources to verify the events and the naming, fails to meet the relevant notability guideline. The article is based mostly on propagandist sites and on misinterpretation of sources. GevHev4 (talk) 11:48, 23 September 2020 (UTC)
 * This appeal looks like an example of WP:IDONTLIKE. I've literally provided sources from both BBC, and records from the RSFSR Supreme Council. --► Sincerely:  Sola Virum  Gadsden_flag.svg 12:01, 23 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Keep. Article is well-sourced with various references from reliable sources in multiple languages (including Armenian). It also surely meets the notability guidelines. If you think the article is biased, you can improve it. Proposing its deletion isn't the way to go. — CuriousGolden (talk·contrib)  13:11, 23 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep. The event is easily sourced and significant, leading to the flight of nearly all Azeris from the city, see for instance HRW report or this book. I agree with the nominator that "pogrom" might not be the best title, however that is not cause for deletion.-- Eostrix  (&#x1F989; hoot hoot&#x1F989;) 13:38, 23 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep per Eostrix. The event is readily verifiable in reliable online sources, among others, but the title may be changed. Brandmeistertalk  14:26, 23 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep. This is a misleading/outright ridiculous justification for deletion ("No reliable sources to verify the events and the naming"). This event is famous and was described in a huge number of RS. My very best wishes (talk) 17:33, 23 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Remove. per WP:DELETE

The article contains provocation and violates the rules of Wikipedia.

1. The title of the photo on which the Armenian residents of Stepanakert are holding a demonstration demanding reunification with Armenia is presented as an anti-Azerbaijani demonstration, the motive of which, as shown in the article, is itself Anti-Azerbaijanism. 2. The author of the article used numerous Azerbaijani sources that obviously cannot be considered independent.

publications:
 * preslib.az
 * xankendi.az
 * modern.az
 * Afandizadeh, Rana Makhmudovna
 * Kulieva, J.
 * Gaffarov, Tahir
 * Gasimova, Flora
 * Baku: Elm
 * Baku: Azernashr
 * Azerbaijani Presidential Library
 * Azerbaijani Soviet Academy of Sciences
 * Architecture of the Soviet Azerbaijan

other unreliable sources Գարիկ Ավագյան (talk) 10:21, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
 * kavkaz.narod.ru
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 * Keep but preferably merge/expand
 * It is verifiably the case from reliable sources that a major incident of ethnic violence occurred in the Stepanakert area from 18-21 September resulting in the forced displacement of ethnic Azeris from the city. Verifiability and general notability are clearly satisfied.
 * This article at present is very biased. The "Background" section focuses exclusively on Armenian–on–Azeri violence. There's far too much reliance on obviously partisan Azerbaijani sources, including as sole sourcing for particularly lurid accusations like well poisoning, etc.
 * While the events meet the general notability guideline, that would seem to be equally true of the simultaneous and parallel expulsion of Armenians from Shusha, the gun attack by Azeri militants on a bus full of students which was used as the provocation or pretext for the Stepanakert attacks, etc. It would probably be best to cover the September 1988 Stepanakert events within a broader article, unless it can be shown that reliable sources actually do treat it as an especially notable event relative to everything else going on around the same time.
 * 74.12.134.40 (talk) 19:50, 24 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Keep but needs to be expanded/sourced


 * The article is verifiable from reliable sources and it's meeting all conditions for general notability.
 * Just it needs expansion with reliable sources for past beginning of article.Ahmetlii (talk) 06:19, 28 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Keep - article in need of expansion and improvements but is sourced and within WP:GNG.BabbaQ (talk) 17:14, 30 September 2020 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.