Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Stephan Kallee


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The result was delete. SarahSV (talk) 22:15, 21 December 2016 (UTC)

Stephan Kallee

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Non-notable person. Despite citing 8 sources that I can access, 6 of those 8 are not independent, and the other 2 are about his father, not him. Article is already nominated for deletion on the German Wikipedia. A Google search does not turn up any obvious sources to add. Ramaksoud2000 (Talk to me) 22:11, 13 December 2016 (UTC)
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 * Weak Delete. BLP gives an interesting discussion of his work on welding, but notability under WP:Prof has to be judged mostly on citations, which are not yet enough. WP:Too soon. Xxanthippe (talk) 23:09, 13 December 2016 (UTC).
 * Delete. I prod-ed this article and was not able to find secondary source coverage that demonstrated notability. agt x  00:02, 14 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep. According to WP:NACADEMIC, his "research has made significant impact in their scholarly discipline, broadly construed, as demonstrated by independent reliable sources." He is one of the earliest friction stir welding R&D experts, who developed this innovative process and reported about his work in papers at numerous prestigious conferences. The large number of secondary citations of his papers here and there are a clear indication about his notability within the field of welding related R&D. NearEMPTiness (talk) 01:52, 14 December 2016 (UTC)
 * — Note to closing admin: NearEMPTiness (talk • contribs) is the creator of the page that is the subject of this AfD.
 * Cite in GS are far below the large number of hundreds expected for this field. Xxanthippe (talk) 02:11, 14 December 2016 (UTC).
 * Cite in GS are far below the large number of hundreds expected for this field. Xxanthippe (talk) 02:11, 14 December 2016 (UTC).


 * Delete as nothing here at all for the applicable notability. SwisterTwister   talk  03:31, 14 December 2016 (UTC)
 * He managed the government funded phase of the EuroStir® (8.8 Mio €) project on "European industrialisation of friction stir welding," which had been the lergest collaborative project of its kind both regarding budget and number of participating companies. NearEMPTiness (talk) 06:38, 14 December 2016 (UTC)
 * I don't see how that helps. €8.8 million is a small project.  agt x  14:29, 14 December 2016 (UTC)
 * It is apparently difficult, to get a discussion running. In the field of friction stir welding, hundreds of secondary citations are actually very unusual (apart from citations of patents and books) and projects with more than 10 Mio € are unheard of. If this article was deleted, it would confirm my perception that engineers are seen to be less notable than chefs and sportsmen, because the notability criteria are arguably fulfilled, as mentioned above. --NearEMPTiness (talk) 18:17, 14 December 2016 (UTC)
 * I just realized that "a major contributor to this article appears to have a close connection with its subject." Anyway, the NACADEMIC criteria require "as demonstrated by independent reliable sources". If there are no mentions of the subject in articles that are not WP:Trivial mentions, then I do not believe it is demonstrated by independent reliable sources, even if some of the subject's papers have been cited by other papers. Ramaksoud2000 (Talk to me) 19:59, 14 December 2016 (UTC)


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