Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Stephanie Twell


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   Keep.  Syn  ergy 00:33, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

Stephanie Twell

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Delete does participation in - and even winning - a junior competition confer notability? I think that age-limited competitions are not the sort that do, otherwise many under-16 or under-18 footballers, little leaguers, and high school/college athletes would be deemed notable, contrary to the normal outcomes at afd. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 22:55, 17 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Comment. An interesting question... does participation in - and even winning - an international junior competition confer notability? I think that if the answer is no, then all junior athletes who have won an international junior competition, but not a senior competition, should be deleted. For example, under these criteria, Mercy Cherono, Sule Utura‎ and Genzebe Dibaba should also be deleted as these women are also notable for winning junior competitions.


 * However, even less notable are Jordan Hasay, Christine Babcock and German Fernandez. Hasay, Babcock and Fernandez have never even won a significant international junior competition. They have not achieved results in Olympics, Outdoor World Championships, Indoor World Championships, World Cross Country Championships, nor have they even won World Juniors or Junior Cross Country titles, so quite clearly they are far less notable than Stephanie Twell, Genzebe Dibaba and Sule Utura. So what is the rule here? Quite clearly, if Stephanie Twell is not notable, then Jordan Hasay, Christine Babcock and German Fernandez are even less than notable and should deleted. My own opinion is that IAAF World Junior Championships in Athletics are significantly more notable than Pokemon (for example), but there might be a case for deleting Jordan Hasay,  Christine Babcock and German Fernandez who are only notable at a national level.


 * I would suggest that the person suggesting the deletion of winners of the IAAF World Junior Championships in Athletics should start with the far less notable national junior athletes like Jordan Hasay,  Christine Babcock and German Fernandez, before deleting World Junior Champions like Stephanie Twell. --Xagent86 (Talk | contribs) 10:54, 18 July 2008 (UTC)


 * I disagree with your final point. Let's discuss it with a noteworthy one. If Stephanie Twell is not notable, then that's a precedent for the others. Starting at the less notable end and wittling away at them is far more likely to produce inconsistent results, in my view. Also, if we decide she is notable, we'll have started discussing where to draw the line. If you think quite a lot of articles are affected by this reasoning, let's advertise this AfD at WP:ATHLETE and at the relevant wikiprojects, also. AndyJones (talk) 16:13, 18 July 2008 (UTC)


 * I can see your reasoning. However if we are looking for a precedent, I notice that in the case of Jordan Hasay, there was already a proposed deletion and the decision was to Keep. Perhaps WikiProject Running need to be involved in setting some clear guidelines otherwise we could end up with the winners of World Juniors (such as Stephanie Twell) being deleted and the forth place finisher in the same race (Jordan Hasay), being kept. --Xagent86 (Talk | contribs) 04:49, 19 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep. The wording of WP:ATHLETE is slightly odd. It refers to athletes who compete in professional leagues. What does a league sport mean here? Does this include IAAF Golden League? In which case, Stephanie Twell meets notability requirements, as an athlete that competes in IAAF Golden League athletic meetings.. --Xagent86 (Talk | contribs) 03:26, 19 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep. To quote WP:ATHLETE, "Competitors who have competed at the highest level in amateur sports."; Stephanie has been selected for the 2008 Summer Olympics -- Ratarsed (talk) 21:17, 19 July 2008 (UTC)


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