Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Stephanie Winters


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The result was delete. Stifle (talk) 08:14, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

Stephanie Winters

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Non-notable musician. Has a few bit parts here and there but nothing of substance. Cited sources barely mention her at all. Prod removed with addition of sources that are no better. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 18:15, 3 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 18:15, 3 April 2022 (UTC)
 * This characterisation is quite one-sided - Winters directed a major Bach Festival at Carnegie Hall in 2020 and has had a substantial professional musical career, including a major commission by Lincoln Center for a show commemorating the sinking of the Titanic in 2012. She also performed on Saturday Night Live and in numerous festivals worldwide.
 * The page had more than 700 views in 2021, suggesting significant interest. Betongmandarin (talk) 18:24, 3 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Please read WP:BAND, our list of notability criteria for musicians. Which one of these does she meet in your view? Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 18:35, 3 April 2022 (UTC)


 * Comment I'm uncertain, because my searches of Google news suggest she is notable, but it's paywalled.
 * 1) https://www.bnd.com/living/magazine/article247524810.html
 * 2) https://www.gratefulweb.com/articles/walter-parks-releases-debut-lp-unlawful-assembly
 * 3) https://www.stltoday.com/entertainment/music/walter-parks-breathes-new-life-into-hymns-hollers-and-stories-from-the-swamp/article_f73112bd-4b88-52a1-af6f-0a7a514fce85.html
 * Article needs work, too much uncited stuff and currently not convincing me she's notable based on the article, but online searches suggest she might be. CT55555
 * I note she claims (and I'll assume it's true) to have played in 3,000 concerts, which seems high (talk) 00:07, 4 April 2022 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 23:27, 10 April 2022 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗  plicit  00:23, 18 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Those are all articles that mention Winters in passing, and I'm not sure "Grateful Web" is a reliable source. Also, number of concerts has nothing to do with notability; WP:BIGNUMBER is not a valid argument. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 05:49, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
 * See the three interviews in Ambush Arts, Cincy Groove and Puremusic, all Additional Sources for the page. With these Winters meets notability criterion 1 on the WPBand list (and bear in mind this is work done in the folk/singer-songwriter culture that gets limited mass media coverage, see WPNMUSICOTHER): Has been the subject of multiple, non-trivial, published works appearing in sources that are reliable, not self-published, and are independent Betongmandarin (talk) 17:48, 10 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Interviews are not considered "non-trivial". Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 20:09, 12 April 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Delete - weak sourcing, fails MUSICBIO by the looks of it.-KH-1 (talk) 09:31, 18 April 2022 (UTC)


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