Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Stephano Barberis


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The result was   delete. T. Canens (talk) 02:37, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

Stephano Barberis

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Borderline advertising, not sourced, and not written in a neutral tone. May not be notable, but I'm not sure of the exact rules around musical directors. Chase me ladies, I&#39;m the Cavalry (talk) 10:21, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete unless cleaned up for NPOV and clarification of notability. There are strings of awards there but they're cited only to some generic page, and it's altogether unclear whether they are significant awards. Stifle (talk) 10:55, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete unless better sources become available. Many of the claimed awards are awards for videos he worked on- not awards that he himself was awarded.  Most of the awards are purely regional in scope; this person's sole claim to notability is the Video Director of the Year awards in 2007 and 2008 from the Canadian Country Music Association, but as far as I can determine, those awards weren't reported on by any independent sources.  None of the biographical information in the article is verified in any independent sources. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 22:41, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

Seems unnecessarily verbose and borderline advertising. I have googled awards such as the CCMAs and they are returned below the the annual Call Centre Management Awards. Does this mean that Wikipedia should include the biographies of notable call centre managers? I am all for the democratisation of Wikipedia but if we allow local awards to be deemed meritorious, where do we stop? School prizes? The biography is also ludicrously self-aggrandising: "Throughout most of elementary and secondary school, the somewhat-reclusive Stephano became known for his imaginative ideas and unique writing, always combining some hybrid of eccentric premise, unique fantasy, and bizarre sequence of events." Source? Does Mr. Barberis have an official biographer? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.86.179.58 (talk) 12:21, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
 * As per your request, I've located a variety of external and independent sources - press releases, newspaper articles - will continue to do so. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kanis103 (talk • contribs) 23:58, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Er... the two that look like newspaper articles are both dead links. Press releases aren't independent sources, so they won't be useful, and awards that are purely local in scope won't be useful, either, as you already have those in the article. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 00:03, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
 * This is odd. The first dead link should have been an article in the "Langley Advance," but when I searched their archives for "Stephano Barberis," I got zero hits.  The second looked like a link to something in "Canada.com," but not only was it a dead link, but when I searched their archives for "Stephano Barberis," I got zero hits there, too.  How did you reach those articles?  I can't find them at all. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 00:08, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I did a google search for Stephano Barberis and Sweatshop Union as well as Stephano Barberis and The Higgins. I could open the pages there and in a new tab but when put on here it created a dead link.    Here's one of the links. It works on my computer so I'm not sure what happened.  Kanis103 (talk) 00:36, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Ah! I can see that one, and it's definitely the sort of thing we're looking for- if I had one more like that (since the criteria call for 'multiple'), I'd almost certainly change my opinion.  I'm going offline so don't be disappointed if I don't change my opinion right away when you post them.  -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 00:39, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Here's another one, but once again it comes up as a dead link on Wiki but I'm able to read via Google search. Kanis103 (talk) 00:47, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 00:41, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Pointy Keep. Better sourced, and far more notable awards, than the plague of articles on porn performers which survive AFDs based on non-independent industry-promotional awards      almost ad infinitum. Hullaballoo Wolfowitz (talk) 16:27, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep per meeting WP:ANYBIO. Article needs cleanup for style and tone, and the addition of proper (and available) sourcing, but surmountable issues are not cause for deletion.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 05:17, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
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