Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Stephen Ballard


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The result was keep. (non-admin closure)  Anarchyte  ( work  &#124;  talk )   10:36, 23 May 2017 (UTC)

Stephen Ballard

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Noticed that there was a challenged prod from : Does not appear to be within Wikipedia's scope due to WP:LASTING and WP:GEOSCOPE. Sadads (talk) 17:52, 7 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep I believe that this article should be kept. As the subject is defiantly more relevant to one region than to another, it will always veer towards WP:GEOSCAPE. That being said, the ABC national news at 6:30 on 26 April did cover the story. As far as lasting impact, Ballard was the first DE State Trooper to be killed in 45 years, a fact that multiple sources cited in the article reference, provides some degree of staying power. The spike in news stories regarding Ballard should be judged in accordance with WP: NTEMP. As a side note, articles such as Trevor Casper (a very similar situation) establish somewhat of a precedent. The article should be improved, and an eye should defiantly be kept out for the long term effects of the death of Ballard. SamHolt6 19:22, 7 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete. single murder. No long term effects as of now. The first state officer in a small state to be killed does not make it notable, or predict long term interest especially in a state where multiple city officers have been killed (because the state includes Baltimore). If NOT NEWS applies to anything, it applies here.  DGG ( talk ) 00:57, 8 May 2017 (UTC)
 * DGG, Baltimore is in Maryland, not Delaware. More to the point, although this was started as an article about a single killing, when I ran a quick google I immediately saw that in fact it is about the killing of a police officer, followed by the police shooting of the killer.  And that it has had ramifications because Delaware is in the midst of a complex debate over  Capital punishment in Delaware and because of the details of this shooting, this case instantly became part of that debate.E.M.Gregory (talk) 21:32, 8 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Crime-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 02:14, 8 May 2017 (UTC)
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 * Move article to Shooting of Stephen Ballard. Sourcing this now.E.M.Gregory (talk) 14:54, 8 May 2017 (UTC)
 * I think we should hold off judgment her as per WP:RAPID. Article was written as a memorial to slain police officer.  I did not see police officer's race mentioned.  However, police tracked shooter to his home, there was a shootout, after which the suspect exited the house and was shot.  Suspect looks black .  I think this needs to be looked into, but I don't have time to do read/search more on it just now,  however, there are at least 2 dead, and an explanation needed about the timing of the shooting at the suspect's house and why he was shot as he exited the house after he reportedly had stopped shooting.E.M.Gregory (talk) 15:09, 8 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Photos here: of shooter, murdered officer, and house where perp lived with parents (police tore windows off with explosives during standoff).E.M.Gregory (talk) 19:28, 8 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 17:03, 8 May 2017 (UTC)


 * Keep There is out-of state coverage (WaPo search : ), more significantly, it is playing a role in the move to reinstate the death penalty in Delaware so it has had an immediate legislative impact, now sourced in article.E.M.Gregory (talk) 19:21, 8 May 2017 (UTC)
 * National coverage for a police officer killed in the line of duty is routine. So are calls for tougher penalties for cop killers.  Lasting impact will be proven when lawmakers actually enact something.  Right now, this article is a pseudobiography of one event. • Gene93k (talk) 12:34, 9 May 2017 (UTC)
 * National coverage does, however, meets WP:GEOSCOPE. And "calls for tougher penalties for cop killers" can confer notability, depending on how loud they are and how long they continue.  Far from being a "pseudobiography," The article is about the shooting of the police officer, the standoff an shooting of the shooter, and the impact on the hot issue of reinstating Capital punishment in Delaware, where a prison guard was also killed this year. " I did not start this article, I found it at AfD, and ran a search on the topic.  I am suggesting that as per WP:RAPID, it makes sense to keep it and revisit in a year to see whether this case turns out to garner ongoing attention, or not.E.M.Gregory (talk) 21:48, 9 May 2017 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep the death penalty change in Delaware has raised the coverage of him and his death to the level of meeting WP:N. I could go either way on the article being about him or the event. That might be a discussion worth having on the talk page (if kept) after a period of time passes to sort out the on going coverage.  Gtstricky Talk or C 03:16, 11 May 2017 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ansh 666 03:03, 16 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep The circumstances combined with the scope and breadth of coverage about this case meets the notability standard. A rename could also be considered. Alansohn (talk) 19:20, 16 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep & move to Shooting of Stephen Ballard; long term societal impact with the reinstatement of death penalty in the state. K.e.coffman (talk) 19:33, 20 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep Plenty of independent WP:RS to make him notable. --David Tornheim (talk) 13:03, 21 May 2017 (UTC)


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