Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Stephen Crowe (composer)


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The result was Keep. Michig (talk) 07:23, 25 March 2018 (UTC)

Stephen Crowe (composer)

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I went in planning on cleaning up the puffery, resume, and promo cruft from this autobiography, but in my effort to verify claims, I realized there wasn't much of anything here. I can't find any evidence of the Hilton Edwards Award (either his award, or the award itself). I don't think that Exeunt Magazine,[1] This is Tomorrow,[2] What's on Stage[3] and Opera Magazine establish notability. The Independent is a passing mention, and to claim it says *he* is the future of opera is misleading at best. The full quote is "The future of new opera looked healthier at Camden Arts Centre on Wednesday, where Stephen Crowe's Francis Bacon Opera previewed to a crammed house." I am also going to nominate The Francis Bacon Opera article as well, for the same reasons. Very little WP:RS. And a lot of bad faith promo. Theredproject (talk) 00:36, 11 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Gabe Iglesia (talk) 03:02, 11 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of England-related deletion discussions. Baby miss  fortune 04:23, 11 March 2018 (UTC)
 * The Hilton Edwards Award is given out at the International Dublin Gay Theatre Festival. The online archives of the festival are indeed patchy, and skip several years of the awards (http://www.gaytheatre.ie/?s=hilton+edwards). The opera in fact won when it was performed at the James Joyce Centre in 2013.


 * The article in The Independent is more than a passing mention, as it reviews The Francis Bacon Opera positively alongside Ravel's established masterpiece 'L'enfant et les sortilèges', and is included in the headline of that article. The wiki entry does not claim that Crowe is, himself, the "Future of new opera", but mentions that his work has been referred to as part of that.


 * 'OPERA' magazine was described by the Daily Telegraph as ‘the bible of the industry', so a positive review there is notable- particularly among living composers. The other Art (This is Tomorrow) and Theatre (Exeunt) publications, while perhaps not of the same standing as OPERA, do reflect a broader recognition of Crowe's work.Stiggler (talk) 19:56, 11 March 2018 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep. I don't find the article to have 'a fair amount of bad faith autobiography' (from the opera afd) nor puffery, resume, and promo cruft. Per u:Stiggler, I'm persuaded that there is broad recognition of Crowe as a composer; I'm content he's notable. Had I read about him elsewhere, I'd expect to be able to find a biog for him on wikipedia.  --Tagishsimon (talk) 04:30, 16 March 2018 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Lourdes  04:28, 18 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep There are quite enough references to justify passing WP:GNG and WP:CREATIVE. Arthistorian1977 (talk) 11:04, 20 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep as passes WP:Creative criteria 3c as his works have received signifiant critical attention with reliable sources reviews Atlantic306 (talk) 15:09, 23 March 2018 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.