Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Stephen Fern


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete‎__EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__. Liz Read! Talk! 03:13, 31 August 2023 (UTC)

Stephen Fern

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Multiple sources from this article are about a different Stephen Fern, and seem to be sprinkled in to feign proper BLP sourcing. Not finding enough here to see a pass of WP:GNG, anything that talks about Stephen directly is either an interview, a passing mention, or just a quick blurb about him as a speaker at an event. A WP:BEFORE mostly finds articles about the other Stephen Fern. IceBergYYC (talk) 06:52, 23 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Comment as nominator Closer inspection reveals that almost none of the included citations even support the text they follow. All instances marked in article.IceBergYYC (talk) 22:28, 28 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People and United Kingdom. AllyD (talk) 08:19, 23 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Comment: The article content is predominantly about Ark2030 and might be better pivoted to be an article about that organisation, consideration of whose notability would fall under WP:ORGDEPTH. ? AllyD (talk) 08:21, 23 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Upon reading all sources in the article, and looking for more, there's far from enough to demonstate ORGDEPTH for Ark2030. Basically every source is an identical couple sentences blurb that is likely just their own PR given to conferences where they have speaking arrangements. IceBergYYC (talk) 22:26, 28 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep A numerous work he has done can’t be overemphasized. I can see multiple reliable sources that said much about him. 102.91.4.246 (talk) 12:40, 28 August 2023 (UTC) —102.91.4.246 (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Care to link to any of those multiple reliable sources? IceBergYYC (talk) 11:42, 28 August 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete Yeah, even if all those sources were about the guy the article is about, they still would not qualify as reliable. Promotional page.  Bremps  ...  21:12, 30 August 2023 (UTC)

102.91.4.246 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 06:40, 30 August 2023 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Delete as an unsourced mess. I can't see one truly independent reliable source in there that says anything meaningful about Fern. I'm keeping an open mind about Ark2030 which as a British community-interest company has an extremely unconvincing existence; Companies house records merely show that it has shuffled directors and that it's twice been threatened with compulsory strike-off, which is impressive for a mere 3 years of existence. If someone independent writes about it, it'd be an appropriate redirect target for Fern, but at the moment I don't see either of them reaching WP's notability requirements. Elemimele (talk) 13:12, 30 August 2023 (UTC)


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