Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Stephen Gilchrist


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   no consensus. Cirt (talk) 08:00, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

Stephen Gilchrist

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No reliable sources found to verify notability. Not Notable: notability is not associative. CSD A7 was contested, with the statement "has played with a number of significant musicians including legendary UK guitarist, Graham Coxon since his departure from Blur - therefore this entry has relevance." I'm just not convinced... &mdash;  X   S   G   05:51, 24 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep, easily passes WP:MUSIC. this shows his work with GC, although i've yet to find a second interweb link for him. Ironholds 11:43, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment - Working with someone doesn't necessarily indicate notability. What's his discography look like?  Which notable bands was he an active member of? &mdash;   X   S   G   15:08, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment - Gilchrist's membership in Magoo (band) will be sufficient for notability, if it can get documented. &mdash;  X   S   G   16:21, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
 * try thisIron<b style="color:#808080">ho</b><b style="color:#696969">ld</b><b style="color:#000">s</b> 17:24, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I'm not sold by that link. Not that it's the be-all end-all of music, but the fact that www.allmusic.com doesn't know anything about Stephen Gilchrist bodes poorly.  I'd really like to see more opinions on the matter, here. &mdash;   X   S   G   21:23, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Living people-related deletion discussions. --Erwin85Bot (talk) 00:02, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.   --  Fabrictramp  |  talk to me  00:27, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Weak delete- notability is borderline. I'd change my !vote to weak keep if references were added...  L'Aquatique   [  talk  ] 03:40, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  TravellingCari  21:29, 28 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete - Doesn't meet WP:NOTABLE or WP:MUSIC. &mdash;  X   S   G   23:38, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Wouldn't that be your second vote? Tavix (talk) 23:56, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I've seen this issue go around and around. My feeling is that a nomination is an implied vote to delete unless it is specified as being a procedural nom, but I've also been told by some user's that if you don't vote your nom doesn't count as a vote. Not sure what the logic is on that one, but anyway the closing admin will be able to see the signature as well as you did so it's probably no big deal. Beeblebrox (talk) 03:20, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
 * While I understand that it's a nebulous point because it ultimately depends on the closing admins interpretations, there are not supposed to be "votes" in an AfD. My understanding is that the closing admin will not perform a tally of Keeps and Deletes and find in favor of the majority; the closing admin will review the arguments made and decide for the strongest viewpoint.  In this case, I felt that my perspective needed to be clarified: I've made some comments along the way which might be confusing, indicatiing in comments that this subject might achieve notability in a particular way (because I never want to mistakenly have a notable subject's page deleted).  Ironholds presented a reference which he believed might fulfill my perspective, however it didn't. &mdash;   X   S   G   03:46, 29 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Redirect From notability guideline for musicians: "Note that members of notable bands are redirected to the band's article, not given individual articles, unless they have demonstrated individual notability for activity independent of the band." Beeblebrox (talk) 03:16, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep for now. Ultimately, a redirect to an article on Stuffy & the Fuses (his 'main' band, who have released 1 or 2 albums) may be in order when it exists, with the content from this article moved to a section within the band article, but he has verifiably played in several notable bands. Stuffy & the Fuses have had significant coverage in ArtRocker and Drowned in Sound as well as coverage elsewhere, and recorded 2 sessions for the BBC, including one for John Peel, so I don't feel deletion is the answer here. Most sources refer to him by his nickname 'stuffy' rather than Stephen Gilchrist, hence the lack of apparent Google hits when searching on his name.--Michig (talk) 11:39, 29 September 2008 (UTC)


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