Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Stephen Rollins


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete.  MBisanz  talk 02:02, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

Stephen Rollins

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I'm not debating the notability of the author, but this article is an autobiography (the author is Rollie74, note that Mr. Rollins was born in 74.) While normally I'd slap on a COI/autobiography tag, the author has removed these (along with removing three SD tags from an article on his company, Lightning Pictures LLC.   Mr. Vernon (talk) 21:55, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment If the subject is notable, it matters not that the article is an autobiography, at least where there exists enough salvageable content that upon the removal of problematic material an article that would survive CSD persists; editing, not deletion, is counseled, and that that editing is disputed, even if wrongly (on the merits of the dispute, or even on the notability of the subject generally, I take no position; I address only the proposition that COI/autobiography concerns necessarily entail deletion) by the article's creator (and apparent subject) is, as a conduct issue, immaterial to a deletion discussion. Joe 22:38, 24 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep and deal with the article's issues (autobiography, cleanup, coi, refimprove) via the talk page.  LinguistAtLarge &bull; Msg  23:20, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Actors and actresses-related deletion discussions.   -- the wub  "?!"  12:30, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete. Firstly I'd like to disagree with the nominators stated reason - conflist of interest is reason for editing, talk page communication and watchlisting, not for deletion. However I'm very dubious about notability. This Google News archive search comes up only with a few directory-type listings in the Daily Variety name-checking the subject as a producer and this article mentioning him in passing as co-director of the Exhibition Hockey League. I can't find any evidence here of the subject's professional ice hockey career - I know it was before the internet had fully taken off but I'd have thought that there would enough fan sites around to be able to find some mention of a professional player from 1993. Phil Bridger (talk) 14:36, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Living people-related deletion discussions.   --  Raven1977 Talk to me My edits  07:30, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete no substantive claim to notability, and whilst WP:COI isn't a primary reason for deletion, it does become the straw that breaks the camel's back. Not only would we be straining notability to breaking point to keep this, but we would be keeping an article that is going to be edited near exclusively by the subject. Mayalld (talk) 23:02, 26 January 2009 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.