Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Steppin: The Movie


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The result was   delete. Cirt (talk) 11:12, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Steppin: The Movie

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DELETE. I think WP:CRYSTAL applies here, this film is not yet notable. The supposed release date has expired. JBsupreme (talk) 15:01, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions.  —PC78 (talk) 22:54, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
 *  Keep Delete without prejudice and allow return. Not crystal, having been released 8 days ago, May 19, 2009, with a quite notable cast. Being a new release, it is a reasonably safe presumption that this will get lots of coverage over the next few days and weeks. Sidenote, this film was both the directorial debut and final film of Michael Taliferro, who sadly died a few months after it was completed.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 02:51, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
 * COMMENT Wikipedia is WP:NOT a memorial. I will happily withdraw this nom if evidence of substantial third party coverage can be found.  Just leave me a note on my talk page in case I miss it here.  JBsupreme (talk) 03:33, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Speedy delete: I can find no sign that this movie was ever actually released. Sure, IMDB says that it came out on 19 May 2009—except that it's not on their list of May 2009 movie releases. Rotten Tomatoes says it came out in 2008, but received zero reviews. The-Numbers.com also says 2008, but says it's earned $0 in theaters. There are no Google News hits mentioning the movie's release. The movie's official website is up for sale. The newspaper coverage of the director's death describes the film as "featuring a cast of unknown young actors" (that link leads to a readable version of the article, unlike the one linked from the movie article), so not everyone thinks the cast is notable. But primarily, I think it's a speedy candidate because the article's plot summary is a direct lift from IMDB's plot summary. End result: db-g12. Dori ❦ (Talk ❖ Contribs ❖ Review) ❦ 03:50, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I don't think a "speedy" as "never released" would serve for a film that shares its trailer and is being offered for sale on DVD... and a straight to DVD release will not have any theatre revenues. That one souce was only to cite budget. And sourcing it as debut and last film of Michael Taliferro was not intended to have it be a memorial, as Taliferro has an article and has his own notability. However, his death might explain the delay between its 2006 completion and its 2009 release... what with estates going through probate and all that jegal stuff. "Debut" and "last film" were offered as perhaps showing notability throughs "The film features significant involvement (ie. one of the most important roles in the making of the film) by a notable person and is a major part of his/her career"... but that seems almost silly, as his career as a director and as an actor ended when he died. What may serve is to have the article userfied to the author and brought back in a few months without prejudice, as the DVD will be out and it will have reviews. As for where it screened on May 19... I'm still digging.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 05:45, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment: I didn't say speedy because it was never released; I said speedy because it's a copyright violation. And is it a direct-to-DVD in August or a theatrical release in May? (note: it can't be both). Give that it's earned no money and garnered no reviews, I'm betting on direct-to-DVD, which means this whole article is CRYSTAL in the bargain. Dori ❦ (Talk ❖ Contribs ❖ Review) ❦ 20:32, 27 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Speedy delete. But for the newspaper article there, the combination of no coverage, mixed release dates, and so forth would lead me to suspect that there was a hoax going on here.  As it stands, however, there is a complete lack of notability, no clear release date, no reviews, and so forth.  That combined with the copy/paste allegation satisfy me on a speedy deletion.Tyrenon (talk) 06:12, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete. I don't believe that the film actually got released last week, as no reviews appear to have shown up, I can find no newspaper articles saying anything like "Steppin was not screened for critics in advance", nor were any box office results reported. Yes, a DVD release has been announced for August ... but then, the theatrical release was announced for this month, and that apparently didn't happen. Once the film actually achieves a verifiable release to the public which is discussed in reliable sources, the article can be reconsidered for inclusion. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 06:22, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Fair enough. Allowing its return to be considered when it has comentary is quite reasonable.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 21:33, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete - notability of the film would be established by major awards, or significant critical commentary. None of this has been provide in the article, nor has it been found by any editors (myself included).  - Whpq (talk) 16:41, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete I vote delete as well. It's not a notable film at all. PÆonU (talk) 07:58, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.


 * "Keep". at this this site why would it have so much info on a movie that never existed, including DVD art from the movie  —Preceding unsigned comment added by J19086 (talk • contribs) 19:58, 4 July 2009 (UTC)