Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Steptoe & Johnson PLLC


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The result was delete. T. Canens (talk) 05:08, 19 August 2015 (UTC)

Steptoe &

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Promotional article about a law firm, largely written by undisclosed paid editors editing in violation of our terms of use, and post-prod restoration requested by another paid editor. Referenced only to primary sources, almost none of them independent, and the others trivial mentions. I don't think it quite rises to the level of a G11, but it's close, and even if the article subject does meet WP:GNG - which I see no evidence of - it should still be deleted per WP:TNT. —Cryptic 17:02, 4 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. — CutestPenguinHangout 17:37, 4 August 2015 (UTC)
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<div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Comment - this is a huge mess, warranting the invocation of TNT, but on the other hand, this is a well-known and respected law firm, and would pass my standards of notability. Such a pity they appear to have wasted good money on paid but badly written editing. I'm worried that this could become a bad precedent, so I'm going to hold off on a !vote. Bearian (talk) 19:55, 5 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Per this, this was an in-house job (as in, they had/have their employees work on this), so at least it's not someone masquarading as a professional wikipedia writer. Small consolation, just saying. --<sub style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 05:04, 7 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete. Unreferenced; any refs present in the article are related not to the company but to Louis A. Johnson. --<sub style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 05:04, 7 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Maybe redirect to Louis A. Johnson instead (where it is briefly mentioned) as my searches found a plethota of results here, here, here and here. SwisterTwister   talk  05:06, 8 August 2015 (UTC)
 * The only mention I see at Louis A. Johnson is of Steptoe & Johnson (whose article is also a mess, though not as large of one). This firm is apparently a spinoff of that one.  Without a direct mention in the founder's article, I can't support a redirect to it; and although this is mentioned in Steptoe & Johnson, a redirect there doesn't seem appropriate. —Cryptic 18:39, 9 August 2015 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ☮  JAaron95  <sup style="color:Green;font-family:Times;">Talk   15:06, 11 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete - not seeing any independent sources here. shoy (reactions) 18:09, 11 August 2015 (UTC)


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