Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Steve Brown (yo-yo player)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   Keep WP:SNOW, article has been improved significantly. Non-admin closure. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP) 16:15, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Steve Brown (yo-yo player)

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Non-notable yo-yo player. — Yavoh 20:02, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. --- RepublicanJacobite  The'FortyFive'  20:04, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep. Changing my vote as well, in light of excellent rewrite of article. --- RepublicanJacobite  The'FortyFive'  15:35, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. RFerreira (talk) 20:10, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep. Changing my !vote in light of recent changes made to the article; good work.  RFerreira (talk) 18:19, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. X Marx the Spot (talk) 21:52, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Changing to Keep in view of changes made to article by AniMate. X Marx the Spot (talk) 05:38, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete per...this is getting a little monotonous, isn't it? Ecoleetage (talk) 02:50, 23 September 2008 (UTC) Changing vote to Keep, as per AniMate's updating (although some people frown on using IMDB as a source, it doesn't matter to me). I also added a source confirming Brown's title while he was on the Duncan payroll. Ecoleetage (talk) 12:29, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep I consider myself to be a deletionist, so this !vote is a little odd for me. However, the article appears to have been gutted recently with alot of relevant information removed. Looking through the history and doing some digging, I discovered that he has designed yo-yos for Team Losi, that he is now considered one of the country's top yo-yoers, and that he's written a book called Duncan Yo-Yo trick book for Duncan Toys Company. Also he's one of eight national masters in the sport... or is it a game? I'm going to be expanding the article shortly. A  ni  Mate  03:23, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
 * There is also this article that details how Brown was on the Duncan payroll for years, which may constitute a conflict of interest on Brown's part (can you be a champion and work for the company that determines champion status?). Ecoleetage (talk) 03:44, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
 * The National Yo-Yo Museum is part of the Chico Toy Museum, not part of Duncan Toys. I did a brief expansion of the article, and found some solid references for his career. A  ni  Mate  04:21, 23 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep Insofar as it's possible for anyone to be notable for yo-yo-ing, it looks like this guy is. And while it is certainly a rather quirky field in which to attain notability, far be it from me to dismiss the entire yo-yo community as inherently non-notable just because I'm not personally familiar with it. The references show that he's been written about in three well-known newspapers for at least 10 years, so seeing as yo-yo-ing isn't exactly a sports page standard, I'd consider that extensive coverage for one person. Coverage over such a long period of time shows that he isn't a 15-minutes-of-fame type of character, but rather a staple in the yo-yo community. So while it may be something of a niche interest community, my overall feeling is that he nevertheless has a significant enough position in it to be considered notable. --Icarus (Hi!) 06:57, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep. AniMate has demonstrated clear notability. Phil Bridger (talk) 11:28, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep - I had tried to delete this page a while ago. It was all puffery and self-promotion, with no real refs. I saw the AfD and though, "Finally, this mess will go away." Well, at long last, someone has added sources and toned it down. I think the common name thing made this one hard to find, but we have the sourcing now. - Mdsummermsw (talk) 15:10, 23 September 2008 (UTC)


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