Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Steve Cleveland


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The result was   keep. (non-admin closure) – Davey 2010 •  (talk)  21:27, 28 September 2014 (UTC)

Steve Cleveland
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Only a collegiate head coach, thus fails WP:NHOOPS after satisfying none of the other requirements. Also fails to satisfy WP:NCOLLATH. PROD removed on "D1 basketball head coach. Obviously notable", which is not met. GauchoDude (talk) 23:02, 22 September 2014 (UTC)
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 * Keep Passes GNG anyway:--Yankees10 23:28, 22 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep - in addition to the sources listed by Yankees10, head coaches actually do meet WP:NCOLLATH, which reads: "College athletes and coaches are notable if they have been the subject of non-trivial media coverage beyond merely a repeating of their statistics, mentions in game summaries, or other WP:ROUTINE coverage. Examples would include head coaches, well-known assistant coaches, or players who: 1) Have won a national award (such as those listed in Template:College Football Awards or the equivalent in another sport), or established a major Division I (NCAA) record, 2)Were inducted into the hall of fame in their sport (for example, the College Football Hall of Fame), or 3) Gained national media attention as an individual, not just as a player for a notable team." Rikster2 (talk) 00:53, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep per GNG and NCOLLATH, with the refs supported by Yankees10. Jrcla2 (talk) 01:31, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Comment: I read the phrase "Examples would include head coaches, well-known assistant coaches, or players who: ..." as using a serial comma, meaning the entire phrase is subject to the list following for which the subject does not meet. Additionally, above GNG evidence seems lukewarm.  Of the 5 articles provided, one leads to a broken page and two I find as WP:ROUTINE about him either joining or leaving a team. GauchoDude (talk) 12:58, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Comment - you are not reading it correctly. It is saying that head coaches, well known assistants and players who (with list).  The clue is the third item which reads "not just a player for a notable team." It doesn't say "player or coach for a notable team. Rikster2 (talk) 13:16, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep per Yankees10, Rikster, and Jrcla2 as an NCAA Division I head coach. Ejgreen77 (talk) 04:16, 26 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep - In the modern media era, the overwhelming majority of Division I men's basketball coaches are going to receive sufficient significant coverage in multiple, independent, reliable sources to satisfy the general notability guidelines per WP:GNG; this subject clearly does so per the examples listed by Yankees10 above. FYI, I have always interpreted the third clause of WP:NCOLLATH as effectively incorporating the GNG standard, with the caveat further that some portion of the coverage be national and not just hometown newspaper or in-state coverage; otherwise, the standard embedded in the third clause is hopelessly vague.  Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 16:53, 28 September 2014 (UTC)
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