Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Steve Gunderson (actor)


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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 14:19, 11 October 2021 (UTC)

Steve Gunderson (actor)

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Appears to fail WP:NACTOR. The article is currently an unreferenced BLP. — Mikehawk10 (talk) 20:28, 26 September 2021 (UTC)
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 * Delete Fails WP:NACTOR....William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 11:57, 27 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete Couldn't able to find news sources. Fails wikipedia's criteria. Trakinwiki (talk)
 * Delete fails WP:NACTOR and WP:GNG.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 15:42, 28 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep. Passes WP:CREATIVE #3 as a playwright/composer as his plays/musicals/cabaret reviews (i.e Suds, Back to Bacharach and David, 24 Hours From Tulsa, etc.) have received critical reviews in significant publications. See below.4meter4 (talk) 22:02, 3 October 2021 (UTC)
 * - first Variety review of Suds
 * 2nd Variety review of play Suds
 * review of Back to Bacharach and David
 * this is a review of a play he had a lead role in with the Arts Club Theatre Company
 * third Suds review in Variety
 * another SUDS review
 * another review of a play he performed in
 * review of his cabaret show "24 Hours From Tulsa" that he made with Lillias White
 * 1rst review of Suds in LAT
 * 2nd review of Suds in LAT
 * 3rd review of Suds in LAT
 * review of play Gunderson performed in
 * review of Suds
 * review of Back to Bacharach
 * critical review of Gunderson's musical "Dixie Highway" (composer)
 * review of a cabaret show co-composed and co-performed by Gunderson and Melissa Gibbs
 * review of his performance in Forever Plaid
 * review of a musical version of A Christmas Carol for which Gunderson composed the music


 * I'm not sure that this addresses the first part of #3, which is that the creative professional must have either created (or been a significant co-creator in) a significant or well-known work or collective body of work. I don't know that they are well known and I'm not sure of the works' significance. Do you have information that would suggest that at least some of these works are well-known and/or significant within his field? — Mikehawk10 (talk) 02:21, 4 October 2021 (UTC)


 * With many reviews in internationally known publications with global readership ( Los Angeles Times, The New York Times, Variety), I think its clear his works are well known. Additionally, the LAT coverage of the New York production of Suds stated their were reviews of the play in Newsweek, The New York Post, The New Yorker, among others. I didn't bother to dig them up, but its clear that Suds got a ton of critical press on the national stage. 4meter4 (talk) 02:59, 4 October 2021 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: For evaluation of the sources listed above.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗  plicit  23:44, 3 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Theatre-related deletion discussions. Lightburst (talk) 03:44, 4 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Keep. I agree with 4meter4 that multiple reviews in The New York Times and other national papers and magazines shows that his body of work is noteworthy. Gunderson's works have been produced at various off-Broadway and established professional regional theatres, which is another indication that they are notable or at least "significant". The news search at the top of this AfD is garbage in, garbage out, because of the word "actor".  A news search for: "Steve Gunderson" theatre -wikipedia   finds hundreds of results, and other searches with words like playwright, play, composer, etc. should turn up even more.  Also, should the article be moved to Steve Gunderson (composer) or something other than actor? -- Ssilvers (talk) 06:07, 4 October 2021 (UTC)
 * He typically performs in his own musicals, plays, and cabaret reviews (although maybe less as he has aged?). He was one of the lead performers in Suds in LA and New York for example. Same for Back to Bacharach. I’m not mad at him being described as an actor, but he’s definitely more than just an actor. It looks like he has gotten press as a music director and composer more recently from the search you posted. 4meter4 (talk) 07:22, 4 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Keep 4meter4 makes a good case for keep and presents a variety of RSs. I have also searched the individual and I have found sources. WP:N Lightburst (talk) 14:49, 4 October 2021 (UTC)
 * keep per 4meter4. Masterhatch (talk) 17:25, 4 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Keep – concurring entirely with the keep comments above.  Tim riley  talk   22:00, 4 October 2021 (UTC)


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