Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Steve Jameson


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   no consensus. no consensus on WP:N after three weeks JForget  00:46, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

Steve Jameson

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Appears to have been written primarily by one of the people in it, going by the Discussion page. Linked to by two articles, including the person's home town. Most of the sources appear to be self-published. Vanity page. --STUART (talk) 11:13, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

as originator of this article, i noted it was being considered for deletion. in an effort to keep it encyclopedic in nature, i have removed all information that might appear superfluous; keeping only strict, historical facts. several sources from websites and periodicals that pertain to meher baba have been used as reference since this artist is very widely known among followers of the spiritual teacher, meher baba. and i ask Stuart and anyone else to help by citing anything left in the article that is not appropriate for a wikipedia article. Huma irani (talk) 22:13, 13 August 2010 (UTC) — Huma irani (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.

every link to any of jameson's personal web sites has been deleted from this article so that he can not use this article for self promotion.Huma irani (talk) 15:11, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

jameson is considered by the community of meher baba followers to be the most popular artist currently illustrating the figure of meher baba. meher baba declared himself to be the reincarnation of mohammed, jesus, budha, krishna, zoroaster and others. meher baba has several thousand followers world-wide. several links to meher baba periodicals and publications have been sited in the article on jameson as reliable, third-party sources verifying jameson's public art works.Huma irani (talk) 15:11, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Visual arts-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 16:17, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
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 * Weak Delete There are tons of references - the creator has worked very hard on this page and it looks great - but virtually all the references are from online sources or trivial publications. At Google News I did find one detailed article about him from a Reliable Source, but it's his hometown paper so I'm not sure how much it adds to his notability. Lots of prizes listed but they all seem pretty minor. One interview on a local TV show claimed. All in all, the author has made the best case possible for this artist but I just don't think it adds up to notability. --MelanieN (talk) 04:09, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, King of &hearts;   &diams;   &clubs;  &spades; 05:49, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Note that if you google Steve Jameson, you should also include his painting names by which he is even better known. They are Wodin and Cedar.  He is most best found by searching under Meher Baba Wodin since he is currently a primary illustrator of the image of the spiritual master Meher Baba.Huma irani (talk) 18:36, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.


 * under paragraph 2.1 in the article on jameson, i added information on his notoriety as the most popular artist among the world-wide disciples of Avatar Meher Baba for his illustrations of Meher Baba's physical form. This is no small matter as Meher Baba is recognized by many in the spiritual world to be the most recent incarnation of the Avatar.  He declared that in previous incarnations He was Jesus, Mohammad, Zoaster, Buddha, Krishna, Ram, etc.  Jameson was also chosen by Meher Baba's sister Mani Irani to illustrate her only 2 illustrated books.  And he was chosen by Meher Baba's disciple, Kati Irani to illustrate her only book as well.Huma irani (talk) 23:17, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment Meher Baba may be notable, but that doesn't mean that his illustrator is notable. Notability is not inherited. --MelanieN (talk) 16:37, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment In reply to MelanieN; I agree that to simply illustrate a notable person does not bestow notability on the illustrator. Anyone can do such a thing as that.

But that is not what I was saying in my previous paragraph. I was referring to the fact that Jameson is the most popular painter of Avatar Meher Baba among His many world-wide followers. And i proved that with many references and notes to articles illustrating that fact in Newspapers and Magazines published regarding Meher Baba. He is the most well-known, most purchased, most collected, most displayed artist of Meher Baba's image in the Meher Baba community. He is so popular that he has been chosen to illustrate more books by Meher Baba's close, intimate Mandali (disciples) than any other artist. That is the point i was making. That was why i considered him to be notable enough to create this article.Huma irani (talk) 18:44, 27 August 2010 (UTC)  Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  — fetch ·  comms   00:33, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.


 * Second relist rationale Article is a BLP.  — fetch ·  comms   00:34, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Strong Keep due to plenty of sources (at least fourty listed as of this comment). If this is deleted though, I would greatly ask for the article to be moved into my user space so I can work on it. Nilocia (talk) 00:49, 28 August 2010 (UTC)


 * Keep - Sufficient career achievement to merit inclusion. Carrite (talk) 18:00, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
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