Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Steve Kaufmann (2nd nomination)


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The result was keep. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont)  21:41, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

Steve Kaufmann
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This article fails to meet the criteria of the general notability guideline and uses Wikipedia as a promotional medium. A page about Mr Kaufmann's business (Lingq) was deleted in August 2009, a previous version of this page was deleted in September 2009, and another page about him (Steven Kaufmann) was deleted in January 2018. Khiikiat (talk) 16:18, 19 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep Steve Kaufmann is clearly notable in being one of perhaps three or four recognised Hyperpolyglpots in the world. Speaking between 15 and 20 languages, depending on how you count it, he is in the top 4 in the world for being able to speak the most amount of languages...clearly this is a notable acheivement. He is active in the world of multilanguage speakers, both a speaker and organiser of conferences, has won awards for his work, and was featured in a documentary. He has written a couple of books and has a successful youtube account (268k subscribers, which I'm pretty sure is the largest multi language learning channel, more than many others who do have wikipedia pages) where he offers advice and techniques for language learning. He has travelled overseas and been interviewed for his language ability, giving the interview in the local language. He is also a good example of older people with successful Youtube accounts (which 2 articles have addressed specifically) and an advocate for older people learning languages. Since the time that the previous articles were deleted there is now more discussion of him, with new RS, which has been added to the article. IMHO He is long overdue a wikipedia page. Thanks! Deathlibrarian (talk) 02:15, 20 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment Please note one of the previous pages was deleted for being promotional. The focus of the criticism, a language learning business, is not mentioned in this article - this article focusses specifically on his abilities as a language speaker, and his efforts to spread techniques. Deathlibrarian (talk) 02:18, 20 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete – Agree that the article subject does not appear to meet GNG. Lacks significant coverage in reliable secondary sources. Tone of the article is promotional. Citobun (talk) 08:01, 20 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment Citobun I have adjusted this article, and actively tried to discuss what he has done in a neutral fashion, and was mainly trying to focus on his abilities and achievements, rather than take a promotional tone. I've not mentioned the name of his books, OR even the name of his language site. If you have suggestions for exactly what is promotional here, and should be removed, please let me know - happy to makes changes and remove anything to deal with that criticism of the article, at least.Thanks. Deathlibrarian (talk) 10:55, 20 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Canada-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 05:16, 21 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Language-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 05:16, 21 August 2020 (UTC)


 * keep Notable polyglot and Youtube personality, in fact I was looking for an article on him.† Encyclopædius  18:24, 23 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep There is sourcing in several reputable publications: Arab News, Japan Today, The Japan Times, The Montreal Gazette, and Catalan News. I also don't see any promotional language in the article, and no basis is given for disputing neutrality (a linguist is unlikely to have negative publicity). The language is matter of fact and doesn't directly promote any of the subject's business ventures (alluding to them in a general way is okay). Easily passes WP:GNG. Curiocurio (talk) 18:37, 24 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep Kaufmann is included in a significant way in several resources, here, here and here. This passes WP:GNG. Mepo233 (talk) 21:47, 25 August 2020 (UTC)


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