Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Steve Lacaze


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to List of Brisbane Broncos players. There is a consensus to redirect, as an alternative to deletion. This target garnered the most support but if a better target is developed (e.g. the suggestion to redirect to 2002 Brisbane Broncos season) this discussions should not get in the way of implementing that. Barkeep49 (talk) 00:31, 27 October 2020 (UTC)

Steve Lacaze

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Per WikiProject Rugby league/Notability, a former rugby league player with one professional appearance and not enough significant coverage to meet WP:GNG. A web search shows only WP:ROUTINE coverage, mostly in reference to the one game he and other reserve players appeared in.

Please see related AfDs, Articles for deletion/Alwyn Simpson and Articles for deletion/Jason Hanrahan. Ytoyoda (talk) 14:09, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. Ytoyoda (talk) 14:09, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Australia-related deletion discussions. Ytoyoda (talk) 14:09, 9 October 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete - from RLN Any current or former rugby league player who has played none or limited first grade rugby league should not be eligible for an article unless it meets the general notability guideline including reliable secondary sources. However, normally these players only have information listed on their club's official website, which is a violation of Independent of the subject in the general notability guideline. Spiderone  18:26, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep. Meets WP:RLN. This is indicative of the other articles available at the time: https://www.pressreader.com/australia/the-weekend-post/20121215/282424166537492 Doctorhawkes (talk) 21:28, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
 * It's just a passing mention to establish a butcher shop's connection to rugby league. If there has been enough coverage to meet WP:GNG, we shouldn't have rely on an article about another player for indications of significant coverage to assume there's coverage. As it remains, his only claim to fame is that he appeared in one game and didn't have much of a career otherwise. Ytoyoda (talk) 22:09, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   12:28, 17 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete he only seems to have played in one game and all the coverage is trivial passing mentions. So, the article fails WP:GNG and the general consensus lately seems to be that articles about athletes who do should be deleted. --Adamant1 (talk) 12:46, 17 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete, a single competitive game is never enough in any team sport unless the appearance became widely noted. Geschichte (talk) 17:00, 17 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep. Meets WP:RLN. In addition to that none of those calling for the deletion of this verified content has given a good reason why it should be Deleted when alternatives exist such as redirecting to List of Brisbane Broncos players. That does not require deletion, provides a useful redirect and preserves valid content for when someone is able to do a dead tree source and expand the content. Sources such as The a to Z of Rugby League Players includes him. duffbeerforme (talk) 08:13, 18 October 2020 (UTC)
 * And the mention in A to Z is totally non-trivial, yeah? Geschichte (talk) 09:28, 18 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Don't have rugby encyclos but AFL encyclopaedias tend to have a couple sentences on each player. SportingFlyer  T · C  20:17, 25 October 2020 (UTC)


 * Keep. Agree with the arguments put by duffbeerforme. Cabrils (talk) 00:20, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Redirect - alternatives to deletion must be considered before deletion. List of Brisbane Broncos players meets that criteria. Deus et lex (talk) 10:14, 25 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment Something in-between is best here. Lacaze does not appear meet the WP:GNG on his own and isn't eligible for his own article, but there's also enough in the article to preserve somewhere. The issue with the "List of Brisbane Broncos players" is it's just a list. I would recommend a redirect there and adding a blurb about the match he appeared in (which was a famous upset) to 2002 Brisbane Broncos season. SportingFlyer  T · C  20:16, 25 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Is there a rule of thumb about how much accompanying details any single item in a list can have? --Adamant1 (talk) 23:38, 25 October 2020 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.