Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Steve Lonegan


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The result was   keep. (non-admin closure) DavidLeighEllis (talk) 01:10, 20 January 2014 (UTC)

Steve Lonegan

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Fails WP:Politician. WAS mayor of a very small town for a few years, a failed candidate for governor 2 times and Senate once, only one of which was slightly notable. (And, even then, he lost by quite a bit.) PrairieKid (talk) 03:42, 5 January 2014 (UTC) One thing I feel it is fair to note (which was just added to the article) is that Lonegan is running for Congress. Judging by the Republican-leaning district he is running in, he does have a fair chance of winning. However, I will refer to WP:Crystal and stand by my AfD. PrairieKid (talk) 23:34, 5 January 2014 (UTC)
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 * Delete per nom. Being mayor of a small town and a failed candidate for other offices does not equate to notability. -- Necrothesp (talk) 23:28, 5 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep A legally blind mayor of an itty-bitty borough in New Jersey, but so what? Lonegan has received extensive ongoing coverage in reliable and verifiable sources for his efforts to make English the borough's official language, for his involvement in a documentary about the borough's 2003 election, his state-level leadership role in Americans for Prosperity, as well as his loveable-loser campaigns for Governor and his quixotic run for U.S. Senate vs. Cory Booker. A search counts at least 213 sources about Lonegan in The New York Times, a publication that loves to ignore New Jersey local politics, and there are thousands more articles about Lonegan in other publications. Alansohn (talk) 01:31, 6 January 2014 (UTC)
 * To say that the NY Times ignores New Jersey is complete POV. Many of those 213 sources cover the elections he was in (and lost) and generally feature his opponents, particularly Chris Christie and Cory Booker. The documentary page can still stand but being a part of one doesn't guarantee notability. Finally, the English-language thing was generally covered by local papers and still does not guarantee notability. Many non-notable people have been involved with notable events. Hell, my local high school's basketball team was covered by USAToday and Yahoo! News among others. That doesn't mean it deserves its own page. PrairieKid (talk) 04:00, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Coverage of New Jersey in the Times has been declining for decades. Perhaps Fort Lee is close enough to the New York City sphere of influence to make the Fort Lee lane closure controversy merit coverage the Times, but the state gets little routine coverage and Lonegan's coverage in the paper goes well beyond his election losses. Sure, you could pick apart each aspect of notability in isolation one at a time and then claim that nothing's left, but Lonegan's notability is based on the totality of coverage in thousands of reliable and verifiable sources of all the aspects I've identified, clearly meeting any WP:N standard. Alansohn (talk) 05:21, 10 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Keep If regular-Joe would-be politicians like John Crowley and Joe Plumeri are notable enough for entries, Lonegan certainly is. He's active in state politics and has appeared multiple times on statewide ballots, including once as the nominee of a major political party. He's not a particularly successful politician, but he's definitely visible.Rabdill (talk) 18:09, 6 January 2014 (UTC)
 * John Crowley is notable for his work as a geneticist. Even then, he isn't entirely notable and I might also nominate him. (I'll give it some thought.) Joe Plumerri is a very well-noted businessman, who happens to be involved in politics. He was the CEO of a massive company. Steve Lonegan doesn't have anything else besides being a local-yocal politician. PrairieKid (talk) 19:47, 6 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Keep - Lonegan is even now active in New Jersey politics, and will certainly continue so. If success in candidacy is the standard for the retention of a political figure in Wiki-bloody-pedia, how come four-time loser William Jennings Bryan has a page on this site?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.125.131.97 (talk) 03:42, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
 * William Jennings Bryan and Steve Lonegan are very different. First off, Bryan actually held acclaimed office, including secretary of state and a term as a representative, as well as running for President several times. Beyond that, he was a noted orator and author. Lonegan simply doesn't compare. PrairieKid (talk) 04:00, 10 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Keep - Lonegan is significant for his controversial language policies as Mayor of Bogota, significant in his leadership of the Tea Party movement in New Jersey in his role for Americans for Prosperity, and significant in his repeated political candidacies for office. Plumber (talk) 17:30, 13 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


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 * Weak keep per Alansohn; I think the coverage is enough to get him past the cut based on WP:GNG.--Arxiloxos (talk) 07:31, 14 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep - Has enough independent third party cites to pass WP:GNG. VMS Mosaic (talk) 11:28, 14 January 2014 (UTC)
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