Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Steve Neuhaus (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Jujutacular (talk) 00:56, 18 August 2016 (UTC)

Steve Neuhaus
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Fails WP:NPOL. He is a county level politician and has only received local coverage of his election typical of every such politician. Nothing else to establish notability. I do not consider the fact that he is the youngest person to hold his office in his county significant. MB 03:40, 23 July 2016 (UTC)  MB  03:40, 23 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 13:40, 23 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of New York-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 13:40, 23 July 2016 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Pinging participants of the previous AfD for further input: Enos733, Bearian, Carrite
 * Delete does not meet the notability requirements for politicians.John Pack Lambert (talk) 15:54, 23 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete. County government is not a level of office that confers an automatic WP:NPOL pass just because the officeholder exists, the sourcing here is not strong or non-local enough to lift him above the norm — and since every political body in existence will always have its own youngest-ever member (as well as the lingering possibility of that member being outyouthed again in the future), that does not count as a valid claim of special notability for a politician who doesn't otherwise pass NPOL or GNG. Bearcat (talk) 21:41, 24 July 2016 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Deryck C. 13:17, 3 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep - Notability is not temporary — this has already been run through AfD with a Keep result. In essence, the New York system of county government is based upon elected unitary executives. This individual is essentially the elected equivalent of a mayor of a city of 375,000 people. Carrite (talk) 16:20, 3 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep - County government does not confer an automatic WP:NPOL pass. While I cannot find a non-local source (NY Times, etc.),  in this case, there are a significant number of independent sources that feature him, his life, his political beliefs (as opposed to a quote, or one [or two] campaign-related stories). Enos733 (talk) 21:15, 5 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep as per my statement in the first AfD. He's a major political leader of a large suburban/exurban county in the New York City metropolitan area. Bearian (talk) 01:15, 8 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Every county-level officeholder who exists at all can always claim to be a major political leader in their own local area. It's not a statement that gets a person into Wikipedia because claimed — a person gets into Wikipedia for it only when they can be properly sourced as being significantly more notable than the thousands of other people around the United States who hold comparable positions. But nothing here shows or sources that at all; the amount of sourcing shown here isn't even slightly greater than the amount of sourceability that every county-level politician always gets in the local media. Bearcat (talk) 14:25, 10 August 2016 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — UY Scuti Talk  18:57, 10 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep Meets WP:BASIC, including recent Times Herald-Record articles about him making too much money.   Th e S te ve   06:47, 11 August 2016 (UTC)


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