Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Steve Parsons


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. Jayjg (talk) 17:36, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

Steve Parsons

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Non-notable musician, failing wikipedia policy at WP:BAND. The only "independent" references are from a Christian website which rather bizarrely describes itself as having a "mandate is to be strong and piercing into situations in our locality of North Staffordshire" - scarcely the kind of scope envisaged at WP:RS - and promotional material on an internet radio service based in the same town of Stoke-on-Trent. andy (talk) 16:49, 21 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Delete Apart from his personal website, the sources are United Christian Broadcasters and Cross Rhythms, both of which seem to fall short of the requirements for independent sources.  Web search doesn't turn up anything interesting, and news search nothing at all.  All in all, he fails WP:MUSICBIO.  Favonian (talk) 11:43, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
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 * Keep Andy you are incorrect in your statements about independent references. Cross Rhythms is a completely independent website that reviews gospel music from around the world and has 4 Radio Stations in Stoke, Coventry, Plymouth and Teeside. You only partially quoted Cross Rhythms "vision" above, leaving out the words Nationally and Globally. If you want an independent authority on christian/gospel music in the United Kingdom, you will struggle to find any more influential than Cross Rhythms. United Christian Broadcasters broadcasts across Europe on Satellite and DAB digital radio and operates 5 radio stations. You are wrong to call them an "internet radio service". The fact that both independent sources are based in Stoke-On -Trent is completely irrelevant to this discussion. Particularly as Steve Parsons is from Cornwall and resides in Cheshire. Within the scope of Christian Music in the UK, Steve Parsons is a notable musician and is worthy of inclusion here. PatStrumer (talk) 10:54, 24 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Then let's see some reliable sources please. It doesn't look like the two sources you quote can be seen as properly independent either of the subject of the article or indeed of each other - they both originate from the same town, are in the same genre and work in partnership with each other. andy (talk) 12:04, 24 March 2010 (UTC)
 * The article has been written using reliable sources. In terms of the sources being independent of the subject of the article I quote independent which states "for a recording artist, an independent source would be a review of the artist rather than album sleeve notes or a press release." You are basing your argument for deletion on the opinion that Cross Rhythms and UCB are not  reliable sources and I do not agree with you on this. Once again I contend that the fact that 2 sources originate from the same town is irrelevant, even if they do "work in partnership" at times. They are still independent organisations, United Christian Broadcasters being "the largest Christian Media Company in the UK." PatStrumer (talk) 14:26, 24 March 2010 (UTC)
 * I suggest that you address the substantive issue, namely the notability of this person according to wikipedia's requirements. andy (talk) 14:28, 24 March 2010 (UTC)
 * I believe the article meets Wikipedia's requirements on the issue of notability. PatStrumer (talk) 14:45, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, JForget  00:23, 28 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete I agree with Favonian about the lack of independent references. I've just waded into Google, but not found anything much. Admittedly, there is a plethora of Steve Parsonses and I'm very hungry... Also, that a 'radio' station plays something doesn't necessarily confer notability - especially in specialist musics. If he got played on Radio 1, maybe. Peridon (talk) 20:59, 24 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, NW ( Talk ) 15:52, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions.  —andy (talk) 17:10, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.