Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Steve Rivkin


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The result was   keep. (non-admin closure) Erik9 (talk) 02:26, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

Steve Rivkin

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The undeniable fact that Rivkin has co-authored some books does not make him notable. The references are themselves not from appropriate sources. One is a press release and another is a staff list on the organisation's own web site. Searching for Rivkin on the Library Journal's web site did not reveal for me the quoted work.

I searched Google for Steve Rivkin, and was unable to find with any ease any reliable sources in the first 100 entries. I found a good load of Zoominfo and other stuff, but nothing that I considered would make him notable here on Wikipedia.

On the article talk page the originator states that he is working with Rivkin to create the article. It is a reasonably flat article, but I view it as self aggrandisement. If he were truly notable Rivkin woudl not need to be "working with" someone to create the article. It would be being created and worked on gladly by others. There would also be substantially more inbound links than from Jack Trout (a co-author) alone. My view also is that the redlinks to Estes Park Institute and Volunteers in Medicine are telling. So far they have not made the cut here. Fiddle Faddle (talk) 08:36, 19 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Note that the credits of this file on Commons appear to state that Sbsnet is actually Rivkin. Thus this article is concealed total conflict of interest.  This user is so far a single purpose account with few if anhy edits outside the Steve Rivkin article.  Fiddle Faddle (talk) 09:53, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep significant books very widely held, by major academic presses. In order of library holdings in  Worldcat:  The power of simplicity from McGraw hill is in 1650 libraries, The new positioning  from McGraw Hill is in 1050,   Making of a name, published by Oxford University Press,  is in over 800   libraries. Ideawise by Wiley is in over 800 as well, and :Differentiate  by Wiley is in 650. Wiuley & McG-H publish a certain number of managerial books of only temporary  itnterest, bt OUP is free fro, that  taint. These are signficicant holding for the subject, and I'm sure the will be reviews to be found---those library  sales figures dont get therre without reviews also. The coauthors in the other books are varied, indicating that he is apparently the principal author. I do not care who wrote the WP article, except that, as is typical with COI,, he did not give the necessary specifics l. As for works about him, Google News finds a long review of the OUP book in Washington Monthly    Differetiatehas reviews in the Straights Times ; there is even an article in a Romanian businiess magazine . Thebook "New Positioning is cited by 84 other works on Google Scholar. Differentiate by 77.  New Positioning " was translatad into Italian. he does seem to be an internationallu notable business writer and marketing professional DGG (talk) 10:40, 19 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep Deleted a bit of puffery, but not really a cause for deletion. Many hits on googlebooks (add "marketing" to differentiate him from a bunch of other "steve rivkin"s).  Certainly is notable per WP. Collect (talk) 15:15, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Living people-related deletion discussions. --Erwin85Bot (talk) 00:02, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep as per DGG. Edward321 (talk) 00:41, 20 February 2009 (UTC)


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