Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Steve Seifert


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to Groovy Rednecks. Consensus is that he's not notable. Redirecting (with possibility of merging) to the band. If the band is deleted this should, as a backlink, be deleted as part of that closure. Barkeep49 (talk) 01:39, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

Steve Seifert

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The band he was a part of has gotten coverage in LA Weekly, but he is not mentioned by name there. I can't find any independent coverage of him. – Thjarkur (talk) 09:23, 4 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. – Thjarkur (talk) 09:23, 4 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of California-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 11:05, 4 May 2020 (UTC)


 * Weak Merge/Redirect into said band. 120.20.170.114 (talk) 12:34, 4 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete - He has only been in his semi-claim-to-fame band for a few years. There are not enough RS. He's not notable. Caro7200 (talk) 12:45, 4 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete Most of the sourcing is trash (Facebook, links to buy CD's on Amazon). The RS don't actually cover Seifert. Best, GPL93 (talk) 13:20, 4 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Pause - I have queried the subject regarding better, independent, and individual-specific references regarding notability.Toxdoc411 (talk) 16:59, 4 May 2020 (UTC)Toxdoc411
 * what is your relationship with Seifert? Best, GPL93 (talk) 17:17, 4 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Acquaintance and occasional musical colleague. I will gather what info I can regarding notability criteria and update page or agree to deletion/redirection as appropriate.Toxdoc411 (talk) 17:38, 4 May 2020 (UTC)


 * Merge/Redirect - Many of the subject's individual notability mentions are not in readily available online references. He is associated with a notable music group and other notable individuals. I'm okay with the suggestion for merge/redirect into said band, Groovy Rednecks.Toxdoc411 (talk) 18:14, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment Are we sure that the band itself meets notability standards? There is currently no sourcing and while it did survive an AfD that was back in 2005 and policies have changed significantly since then. Best, GPL93 (talk) 19:35, 7 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment The first three references on Seifert's page are reliable media reviews of the band, attesting to their notability.Toxdoc411 (talk) 05:40, 8 May 2020 (UTC)
 * I read them. One is a passing mention, one is a mention in the context of a larger subject and the third is an interview in a local newspaper and none are from non-local sources. I am not sure if that puts the Groovy Rednecks above the notability criteria. Best, GPL93 (talk) 13:00, 8 May 2020 (UTC)
 * We disagree. They've been around for 20 years, get press in a major market (that second LA Weekly reference was for a story where they were featured on the cover), have a record contract and put out five albums, and are still going strong. Toxdoc411 (talk) 14:54, 8 May 2020 (UTC)
 * who exactly is "we"? GPL93 (talk) 15:00, 8 May 2020 (UTC)
 * "We" is "you and I," as in, "You and I disagree about their notability."Toxdoc411 (talk) 19:33, 8 May 2020 (UTC)


 * Merge to the Groovy Rednecks band article provided it survives its AFD. With a circulation of 160,000 the LA Weekly is a regional rather than local source, imv Atlantic306 (talk) 19:58, 8 May 2020 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.