Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Steve Sexton (composer)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. Shimeru (talk) 00:56, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

Steve Sexton (composer)

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Notability in doubt. Apparent autobiography. Rd232 talk 13:08, 2 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Sorry for any inconsistencies (new to this), all facts are verifiable, will just have to learn how to follow procedure. Thanks for your comments.
 * Comments were made regarding entry into the Richmond Hill Sports Hall of Fame. Year of induction was 2005 with the Richmond Hill Lions http://www.richmondhill.ca/subpage.asp?pageid=shof_inductee_rh_lions_hockey_67_68 Was told Elvis Sojko was there (cannot verify), Mayor was there as he presented all awards.
 * Also have added more references/footnotes for verification
 * Stvsxtn (talk) 13:30, 3 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.  -- --Darkwind (talk) 01:55, 4 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Comment. I'm going to be frank here. The article is currently in a dreadful state and self-promotional. However, I suspect that properly referenced and written, it probably would might pass the notability criteria. I'm going to go through it, reformatting, removing spurious references (Note Wikipedia articles are never a valid reference), pruning the name dropping etc. Then other editors can judge properly whether it's worth keeping. Stvsxtn, I'm going to ask you stop editing the article until I have finished cleaning it up and referencing it. If you are the subject (or have a close connection to him), you should not be editing it all. See WP:Conflict of interest for guidance on this. Voceditenore (talk) 05:49, 4 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Neutral I have now completely re-written this and referenced it. Just as well, as it was pasted in from various self-published internet profiles of the subject in violation of copyright. I have removed the name-dropping and repetition (the various artists' names whom he only "worked with" because they appeared with Anne Murray where he was the band leader). I also removed claims of awards for which I could find no independent confirmation, and accolades which rightly belonged not to him, but to other people with whom he has been associated. I also removed the extensive padding which involved importing the entire Anne Murray discography into the article. The two aspects of his career which are documented and are the most likely candidates to support his notability are his ensemble, Exchange, and his work with Anne Murray. This is not my area of expertise, so I'll leave it to others to decide from the references which now appear in the article. Voceditenore (talk) 13:29, 4 May 2010 (UTC)


 * My apologize, I will cease to edit, was trying to help out with small edits, I will cease to add anything, no problem. Stvsxtn (talk) 13:50, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
 * As I suggested on your talk page, if you find what you think are references from reliable sources that support any further claims to notability, by all means bring them to this discussion so that other editors can evaluate them. But my advice would be to stay away from the article itself. Voceditenore (talk) 14:03, 4 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Weak Keep. It looks as though he meets criteria 2 and 10 of WP:MUSIC, although I'm using liberal interpretations of both. He was a member of a band (Red Rider) whose albums meet criterion 2, and he was bandleader / musical director on several shows that seem to meet criterion 10. BTW, kudos to Voceditenore for your work in salvaging the article!  PK  T (alk)  14:33, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep as rewritten. Great work, Voceditenore. &mdash; e. ripley\talk 14:54, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep Nice work there. Looks much better. Peridon (talk) 15:03, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep. Appears to satisfy Notability (music) as rewritten by Voceditenore. On a side note, there are no articles that link to Steve Sexton (composer).4meter4 (talk) 05:42, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment. I added a few incoming links which were mistakenly going to Steve Sexton.4meter4 (talk) 05:55, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks! I always forget to check that. ;-) I've added some too. It now has 7 incoming links. Voceditenore (talk) 06:00, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
 * You're welcome. And thank you for adding additional links. On another note, I've now nominated Steve Sexton for deletion. If that article is deleted this article should be moved to Steve Sexton.4meter4 (talk) 17:57, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
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