Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Steve Urkel


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. RL0919 (talk) 16:43, 28 October 2019 (UTC)

Steve Urkel

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This is pure WP:FANCRUFT & WP:JUNK as this is not the Family Matters Wikia/Fandom page. But, I think some of the information mentioned in cultural impact section could be salvaged for the main article about Family Matters. Pahiy (talk) 16:40, 21 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Automated comment: This AfD was not correctly transcluded to the log (step 3). I have transcluded it to Articles for deletion/Log/2019 October 21.  —cyberbot I   Talk to my owner :Online 16:53, 21 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 17:30, 21 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 17:30, 21 October 2019 (UTC)


 * Keep Clear notability indicated by such sources as African Americans on Television: Race-ing for Ratings page 163, Historical Dictionary of African American Television page 157, and others. The article lacks references, but WP:NOTCLEANUP and it can be fixed into a solid article with some effort.ZXCVBNM (TALK) 17:42, 21 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep - A quick look shows plenty of reliable sources discussing the character and his cultural impact. Aside from the books mentioned by ZXCVBNM above, there are also a number of scholarly articles that spend some time discussing him as well.  And while the amount of information varies in them, its enough to show that the character has enough independent notability to have an article separate from the series' main article.  This could definitely use a lot of work to make it less plot summary and more sourced information, but it passes the notability requirements.  Rorshacma (talk) 20:02, 21 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep Probably the quintessential example of a non-white "nerd" character in popular media . Some of the current article is rather Wikia-like, particularly the "Relationships" subsection, but that's a cleanup issue, not a deletion one. XOR&#39;easter (talk) 21:09, 21 October 2019 (UTC)
 * I got rid of the relationships section at the AFD suggestion. ミラP 21:20, 21 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Africa-related deletion discussions. ミラP 21:21, 21 October 2019 (UTC)
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 * Keep well known in WP:POPCULTURE and supported by WP:RSs that WP:NEXIST Lightburst (talk) 00:07, 22 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep Needs the usual improvements to remove pop culture cruft, but this isn't anywhere near a state of deletion.  Nate  • ( chatter ) 00:34, 22 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep per the above. While doing a very brief search on Google Scholar, I noticed some articles that analyzed this character's role as a black nerd. There seem to be plenty of sources on the character, but the article is not in the best shape for sure. However, it is need of cleanup and expansion and neither of these are AfD issues. Aoba47 (talk) 14:42, 22 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep I will freely admit that I didn't actually read the listed sources in the article, but, based on their titles alone, they are significant and seem to be in reliable sources. I couldn't read the NYT piece before they threw a pay-wall in my face, but the little I got looked like a source of use. Much as it warms the cockles of my heart to see articles on insignificant trivia consigned to the bitbin of the internet, this character was noticed and discussed by reliable sources.  Oh that even a tenth of the fictional characters currently on wikipedia had even a tenth the source support he seems to. I haven't looked at the article very hard, so it might need some WP:NUKEIT, but I suspect that such drastic measures aren't needed. Rockphed (talk) 15:46, 22 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep. Dear Many of your AfD nominations are good, but this particular nomination is extremely unlikely to succeed. I do agree, though, that the article could definitely use some cleanup. Are you interested in withdrawing your deletion nomination? Kind regards, —Unforgettableid (talk) 06:55, 23 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep - While I don't think many articles on fictional characters pass WP:GNG, this one clearly does.  Onel 5969  TT me 02:25, 24 October 2019 (UTC)


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