Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Steve Wilks (musician)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. As near as I can tell, once all the sock-puppets are grouped consolidated, it's unanimous to delete, except fo that one person. -- RoySmith (talk) 22:53, 19 March 2016 (UTC)

Steve Wilks (musician)

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Non-notable musician. There is no indication that Wilks is a significant musician, as there is no evidence of any significant coverage, awards, or significant airplay for this artist. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 19:15, 1 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.  /wiae   /tlk  20:03, 1 March 2016 (UTC)
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 * Comment well if he has no coverage why his his music in a sitcom in usa on fox tv http://www.tv.com/shows/north-shore/meteor-shower-337857/ answer this question and delete page petredow (talk) 10:57, 19 March 2016 (UTC)

Steve Wilks meets the two of the Wikipedia criteria for notability of musicians and ensembles (although only one is enough):
 * 1) Has become one of the most prominent representatives of a notable style or the most prominent of the local scene of a city;
 * 2) Has been a featured subject of a substantial broadcast segment across a national radio or TV network.

That's the reason enough not to delete this article.

Sandra.Stamenkovic91 (talk) 20:51, 1 March 2016 (UTC) — Sandra.Stamenkovic91 (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Comment The article does not assert either of those claims. Of what style is Wilks the most prominent representative, or of which city is he the most prominent musician? And where is the verification of this claim? Also, of which substantial national broadcast segment was he the subject, and where is the verification of that claim?  WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 21:20, 1 March 2016 (UTC)

He is the prominent representative of reggae music in Bristol, UK. Beside that he cooperated with some respected reggae artist (it is all mentioned in the text). He appeared on Roni Size's album "Return to V" on two songs: "Fassyhole" and "Thirsty".
 * Comment

Here are some of the links you might want to check: https://www.discogs.com/Roni-Size-Return-To-V/release/337340 http://musiceyz.co.uk/2016/02/21/iona-by-steve-wilks-review/ http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/features/size-does-matter-15112.html http://www.reggae.fr/artiste-biographie/871_Steve-Wilks.html

I hope I'll meet understanding

Best regards

Sandra.Stamenkovic91 (talk) 22:12, 1 March 2016 (UTC) — Sandra.Stamenkovic91 (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.

In addition,

he also produced Junior Kellys Jah Know that went out on wontstop records Jamaica, and also on Jetstar records on the Kings of zion album. Beside that he produced Anthony b on Make my Money released on wontstop record. Sandra.Stamenkovic91 (talk) 22:17, 1 March 2016 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Comment We'll need proof of your assertion that Wilks is the prominent reggae musician in Bristol, in the form of references in reliable sources indicating that fact. As for his appearances with other artists, notability is not inherited: one does not become notable merely because one has worked with notable people. Again, the bottom line is significant coverage in independent sources. Discogs merely lists that Wilks performed; the Reggae.fr biography appears to have been written by an "Official" representative of Wilks; the significance of Musiceyz is difficult to assess, but it looks like an independent music blog, without the requisite editorial oversight to be considered a reliable source; and the Independent article is about Roni Size, not Wilks, who is just mentioned in the briefest of passing.  WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 22:25, 1 March 2016 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — UY Scuti Talk  19:59, 8 March 2016 (UTC) links i rest my casemusicpeople2.223.238.195 (talk) 22:52, 11 March 2016 (UTC)just my thoughts — 2.223.238.195 (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. Keep  Look what the question is hear the man has notoriety yet another one of his songs in a national program usa fox tv north shore sitcom http://www.tv.com/shows/north-shore/pilot-326191/[musicpeople]2.223.238.195 (talk) 22:52, 11 March 2016 (UTC)[musicpeople]] — 2.223.238.195 (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. Struck multiple vote. Joseph2302 (talk) 23:03, 11 March 2016 (UTC)
 * I concur with WikiDan61. His music is self-published, which confers exactly nothing in the way of notability; and I can't find any reliable source coverage any more substantial than his single-sentence, barely-a-namedrop mention in the Independent article already linked.  Doesn't meet WP:GNG or WP:NMUSIC.  Delete. —Cryptic 04:02, 11 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete Fails WP:GNG and WP:NMUSICIAN. Joseph2302 (talk) 07:31, 11 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete Per Joseph2302 142.105.159.60 (talk) 19:34, 11 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep The artist has been involved in the bristol music scene and jamaica reggae scene and has articles in the Huffington post and others he has worked with legends in the reggae industry Anthony B and Junior kelly and produced both of demo released one on his label and the other was released threw jet star records how even wrote his name wrong has they were bad business people..He has a proven track record in the business ..the page should stay
 * 1) http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/legendary-jamaican-drugs-cafatildecopy-is-closed-5355711.html
 * 2) http://djmarkdevlin.blogspot.co.uk/2012_10_01_archive.html
 * 3) http://home.scarlet.be/baldacchino/review.htm
 * 4) http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2003/feb/09/drugsandalcohol.tonythompson
 * 5) http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/2700905.stm
 * 6) http://www.ukessays.com/essays/music/impact-of-the-jamaican-diaspora-music-essay.php
 * 7) http://www.thehempire.com/index.php/cannabis/news/legendary_jamaican_drugs_caf_is_closed
 * 8) http://www.tv.com/shows/north-shore/pilot-326191/    (his is his song in a national fox tv series North Shore)


 * Comment Looking at those articles, 5 of them are mainly about his cafe and drugs- decent coverage, but falls under WP:BLP1E His music is only mentioned in (a blog, not a reliable source),  (possibly reliable), and  (passing mentions). As such, he doesn't pass WP:NMUSIC or WP:GNG, and is a serious case of WP:BLP1E. Joseph2302 (talk) 23:06, 11 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Well i show the cafe has the has to do with this artist music he his from this life and his music speaks about it his songs being on a national sitcom 2these are just examples the page in question has worked with known and produced very well known artist and has done 27 albums to date on his own production getting distribution from jetstar records on junior kelly jah know and i am looking at more now has notoriety the cafe is shown in his wiki media page he has come out of this enviormnet the cafe is a part of his music and the cafe has had wide spread international news and he owned it while he was doing music so it is relevant [musicpeople]
 * https://conspiromedia.wordpress.com/tag/steve-wilks/
 * http://elissahawke.blogspot.co.uk/2012/10/steve-wilks-aint-afraid-to-say-nothin.html [musicpeople]2.223.238.195 (talk) 00:17, 12 March 2016 (UTC) — 2.223.238.195 (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * The two links you've provided are blogs by random people/organizations who aren't known in their subject area. Quoting a random person's blog isn't useful for establishing notability, but if you're able to fsame articles from reliable sources which cover the subject in-depth, then it'll be a different situation. Elaenia (talk) 00:26, 12 March 2016 (UTC)

the links are on the page already Daly, Max; Sampson, Steve (2012). Narcomania: A Journey Through Britain's Drug World. Random House. pp. 62–63. ISBN 9781448136490. Retrieved 7 March 2016. Jump up ^ http://www.stevewilks.com Jump up ^ David Icke (October 9, 2012). "Good Vibrations Podcast: Steve Wilks". davidicke.com. Retrieved 7 March 2016. Jump up ^ "Size does matter". The Independent. 3 January 2005. Retrieved 1 March 2016. Jump up ^ "Steve Wilks, Biographie sur Reggae.fr, artiste, photo, vidéo, article, discographie, albums". Retrieved 1 March 2016. Jump up ^ "Iona by Steve Wilks (Review)". musiceyz. Retrieved 1 March 2016. Jump up ^ McQuiston, James (February 18, 2016). "Steve Wilks Iona Single Review". NeuFutur Magazine Online. Retrieved 7 March 2016. Rating: 9.0/10 Jump up ^ "Steve Wilks". Retrieved 1 March 2016.Steve Wilks official website Steve Wilks on facebook Steve Wilks on you tube Steve Wilks on Disco Logs Authority control ORCID: 0000-0003-3411-5159 MusicBrainz: 8834711b-74b3-4e91-9cdd-46bb58ad4284Hope this clears it up thanks[musicpeople]2.223.238.195 (talk) 01:12, 12 March 2016 (UTC) — 2.223.238.195 (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. Steve Wilks meets the two of the Wikipedia criteria for notability of musicians and ensembles (although only one is enough): http://www.tv.com/shows/north-shore/meteor-shower-337857/ http://www.tv.com/shows/north-shore/pilot-326191/  well he seems to have had Smiling played on to episodes of North shore The pilot and episode 4 http://www.tv.com/shows/north-shore/pilot-326191/  and it seems he had We wear it well played in the pilot too and this is on fox sitcom major usa channel [musicpeople]2.223.238.195 (talk) 02:00, 12 March 2016 (UTC) has for known in the town here is a official radio station in bristol the town http://www.ujimaradio.com/on-air/shows-old/codes-of-the-streets-dj-style/ mentions he is apart of the BiG which has been going over 19 years http://www.bbc.co.uk/bristol/content/articles/2005/08/24/smallprint_feature.shtml https://issuu.com/venuepublishing/docs/venue_970   page 4 it seems steve d wright wrote a review on friends now and mr wilks was not happy Venue magazine was one of bristols biggest mags and the page had many reviews on songs just looking for them [musicpeople]2.223.238.195 (talk) 02:31, 12 March 2016 (UTC) — 2.223.238.195 (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. no i am not connected to the subject this is a free space for others to put there point of view well that is what i thought i will put a last piece http://bristolhardcore.proboards.com/thread/238/ashton-court-2007  the page seems to be performing on big stages and ashton court is a big festival and the stage he was on is the same has  Mad Professor & The Ariwa Posse so has we need to have real info and the write thing on wiki i thought i would add my piece ....and thats that hope page stays cause it is relevant to me has fan of artist and a lover of music thus me taking my time to add to this article with my views[musicpeople}2.223.238.195 (talk) 02:53, 12 March 2016 (UTC) — 2.223.238.195 (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. that is rubbish i have i seen the article and i am not attached to article i have edited the article to add facts has truth i think you are a little paranoid you need to check the ip addresses of the others you list before you make false statements cause i have read that and you have got under my skin because you are negative to this article with no facts you should be deleted from wiki [musicpeople]2.223.238.195 (talk) 03:23, 12 March 2016 (UTC) — 2.223.238.195 (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. Help http://www.tv.com/shows/north-shore/meteor-shower-337857/ http://home.scarlet.be/baldacchino/review.htm http://www.tv.com/shows/north-shore/pilot-326191/ can someone add these to references has this will make the page qualify his music has been played on national tv show north shore 4 times    if someone could add to references and take out roni size independent has they say it is no good thank you for the help i a trying to help the page and artist has he has work that has been worthy of the page with ref thankspetredow (talk) 19:23, 13 March 2016 (UTC)[Peterdow123] — Peterdow123 (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. just added new sources but i am not wiki media say yet let me know your thoughts thanks for the help and words[:Peterdow123}petredow (talk) 20:25, 13 March 2016 (UTC) — Peterdow123 (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. last thing i will add is that the music artist in concern has been apart of the bristol music scene and jamaica recording scene fr years having 3 songs played on a sitcom on national tv is a requirement that fits with wiki media and he has beened reviewed many ties by publications of wiki worth if you edit the page to get reference in good ay much appreciated[Peterdow123petredow (talk) 20:36, 13 March 2016 (UTC) — Peterdow123 (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. so i thought i would add that live performance on main stage bristol community festival the artist for this page played main stage and Reef play the same stage the saturday night Ashton Court Festival http://www.p4ft.co.uk/bcf.htm petredow (talk) 01:36, 14 March 2016 (UTC) — Peterdow123 (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. Keep The articles has reliable source and refpetredow (talk) 02:21, 14 March 2016 (UTC) — Peterdow123 (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. Note: Multiple vote struck. Joseph2302 (talk) 09:05, 19 March 2016 (UTC)
 * 1) Has become one of the most prominent representatives of a notable style or the most prominent of the local scene of a city;
 * 2) Has been a featured subject of a substantial broadcast segment across a national radio or TV network.
 * Comment Multiple users and IPs without any activity elsewhere on Wikipedia appear to be canvassing for the article to be kept, although it's possible it's a single user using multiple IPs/accounts. See Special:Contributions/Peterdow123, Special:Contributions/Sandra.Stamenkovic91, Special:Contributions/174.113.211.25, and Special:Contributions/2.223.238.195. Elaenia (talk) 03:16, 12 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete unless additional independent reliable sources not associated with the musician are added. Robert McClenon (talk) 03:11, 13 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Note above user is a single purpose account with a declared connection to the subject. Elaenia (talk) 02:50, 14 March 2016 (UTC)

Keep Just adding this artist has stuff all over the place if you look http://www.etampois-sudessonne.fr/fr/evenement/1604/fete-musique-etampes-jeudi-21-juin-2012 musicpeople5.66.138.201 (talk) 01:15, 15 March 2016 (UTC) http://radiomagnetic.com/contributors/shows/archive/fiasco/featuring-joe-90/ adding links that are sourcable let me know what you think thanks music people — Preceding musicpeople comment added by 5.66.138.201 (talk) 01:44, 15 March 2016 (UTC) musicpeople — 5.66.138.201 (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. i have looked at all comments on this page you say about ashton court but is has a page on wiki https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashton_Court_Festival this just one example .if the page don't qualify then it will come down,but it does qualify so the outcome will be decided when the outcome is decided .it won't stop any wars in the world or change second-class life for nations who suffer under it.So be clever peace and lovepetredow (talk) 12:17, 15 March 2016 (UTC) — Peterdow123 (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. Keep I've just come across this discussion on the internet, after looking up this artist, and I'm quite surprised that this site is up for deletion. Steve Wilks is a well known musician in Bristol and has worked with people like Roni Size, Anthony B and Junior Kelly. He's well known on the reggae seen and I've seen him perform at Ashton Court, which is one of the most well known festivals in the UK. I'm not really one for using Wikipedia, but felt that I should say something just passing 77.96.26.84 (talk) 19:47, 16 March 2016 (UTC) — 77.96.26.84 (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. the truth is the internet and the powers have a way a blocking the real thing ..i leave it at that.. Thanks for the chat and learning they have him listed at all music but say they can't show due to label issues http://www.allmusic.com/album/dj-kicks-mw0000038650 he his listed here so it looks like this guy his about the place a lot and has songs on big production http://www.reggae.fr/lire-article/1122_Steve-Wilks---To-be-Humble.html  this is a review of to be humble Album French magazine http://www.radio-dj.ru/it/Dance/97181.htm Paris radio ? http://www.allmusic.com/search/all/steve%20wilks%20he%20loves%20you http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/features/size-does-matter-15112.html petredow (talk) 00:17, 17 March 2016 (UTC) — Peterdow123 (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. Here is video of him on a show in France tv net work cap24 which is not a cable network i can't find the interview https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtsgxcr9EX02.126.103.180 (talk) 18:30, 17 March 2016 (UTC) — 2.126.103.180 (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtsgxcr9EX0 Has had a work used as the basis for a later composition by a songwriter, composer or lyricist who meets the above criteria. https://www.discogs.com/Anthony-B-Make-My-Money/release/7880847 Accomplisher Artist from Jamaica steve wilks was producer on this single http://www.vpreggae.com/kings-of-zion-2-va/ The recording was performed in a medium that is notable, e.g., a theme for a network television show, performance in a television show or notable film, inclusion on a notable compilation album, etc. (But if this is the only claim, it is probably more appropriate to have a mention in the main article and redirect to that article. Read WP:BLP1E and WP:BIO1E for further clarifications) http://www.tv.com/shows/north-shore/pilot-326191/ http://www.tv.com/shows/north-shore/meteor-shower-337857/ and that is it petredow (talk) 21:34, 17 March 2016 (UTC) — Peterdow123 (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. Keep because it meets wikipedia standard good i learnt a lot and mite have to do more thanks all of you for the experience petredow (talk) 21:37, 17 March 2016 (UTC) Note: Multiple vote struck Joseph2302 (talk) 09:05, 19 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Comment I note that two separate IP users have attempted to "sign" their comments using the name "musicpeople". To the latest "musicpeople", I would mention that the two links you've provided are insignificiant: a listing at a music festival of little or no notability, and a track in a track listing of a podcast. These are not examples of significant coverage. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 11:32, 15 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Comment IAshtoncourt festival was one of the biggest 2 day festival n europe and when going big acts performed there that is a factt look ,i see a lot of you people here just talk but with no nothing .i look at this page and then artist has had major airplay on major outlets fox tv and the page is petredow (talk) 11:57, 15 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Comment i just look the internet for subject natter this man is not well pulicised on the net but i still leave in links artist is named with the best in the business http://www.trouverdeshotels.com/amerique-centrale/culture-jamaique.html http://www.forsenergy.com/d91a4fd042d4be7f.html petredow (talk) 23:25, 16 March 2016 (UTC) — Peterdow123 (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * The parade of links to unattributed mirrors of old versions of Wikipedia articles (which no longer mention this person) and glowing testimonials from IPs (which all happen to have the same editing quirks) is utterly unconvincing. If you want to save this article, the way to do that is with substantial sources from professional journalists with genuine editorial oversight. —Cryptic 23:54, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Comment i am looking for material this is a genuine article from a respected mag/reveiwer http://www.reggae.fr/artiste-biographie/871_Steve-Wilks.html i am looking for his all music link mite find it lolpetredow (talk) 00:01, 17 March 2016 (UTC) — Peterdow123 (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Comment It is hard to find internet stuff on this guy has you can see he is from a bad life and maybe has something to say we are supposed to hear - we don't know. I will leave it at this, the cafe he owned was international knownblack and white cafe and has a big involvement in his music has they mention in this interview with roni size that he had 2 songs on return to v Steve Wilks qualifies has WPA and maybe we can see he has worked with songwriting and production and released from his label worthy of WPK
 * Comment The artist on page will have reviews on all music soon due to label problems with his connection with believe digital france is where the problem is that there are none to see has you can see his music is listed on All Music web site
 * Comment The page passes wiki pedia notable artist Has performed music for a work of media that is notable, e.g., a theme for a network television show, performance in a television show or notable film, inclusion on a notable compilation album, etc. (But if this is the only claim, it is probably more appropriate to have a mention in the main article and redirect to that article. Read WP:BLP1E and WP:BIO1E for further clarifications)
 * Move to userspace of.. uh... whichever of these redlink accounts made/wants it, I guess. It is a pretty well structured article, and seems to have no dearth of content. It just needs more sources to establish notability, which several voters here are very adamant it has. I feel it has potential, it just isn't ready to be an article yet. Tpdwkouaa (talk) 05:14, 19 March 2016 (UTC)
 * There aren't any non-connected users supporting a keep actually (as far as I can tell from the mess above), it's just one person using multiple IPs and I think like 2 accounts - voting multiple times. It's seriously getting confusing to follow... Elaenia (talk) 05:33, 19 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Yeah, that's what I figured. I'd say I admire their tenaciousness, but, well, I don't. Tpdwkouaa (talk) 06:13, 19 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Agree, all these IPs should be classed as the same person. The clear consensus of established, non-connected editors is to delete. Joseph2302 (talk) 08:23, 19 March 2016 (UTC)
 * I've also tagged the SPA edits, and struck multiple votes. I oppose userfication because he isn't notable, and it'll just end up in it getting recreated quickly by this meat/sockfarm, and we'll have to have another discussion like this one because they aren't listening. Joseph2302 (talk) 09:05, 19 March 2016 (UTC)

i have just come on here and read your words of lies and negative i am here in support of this page if the ip addresses are the same you could see that i see how you work here and the same negative person keeps on saying the same i say you must be removed from wiki for making false comments the page has passed the wiki pedia he has songs played on national tv programme and had his work used by anthony b and junior kelly which are 2 jamaican big big starts check on the net...All music has his music listed but due to label blah blah don't show it you cannot delete this page has you would be going against your own rules lol but do you care ...dont make false statements (talk petredow (talk) 10:42, 19 March 2016 (UTC) Keep you speak about all the mumbo jumbo up there but in that mumbo jumbo is the facts that he has worked with establish artist and songwriter have re created over his work and he has had his music played in national tv shows in usa many times ,plus he his an established member of the music community in bristol and jamaica but he has not much internet coverage but all music has him listed has a composer on smith and mighty album    so delete the page and go against your own rules     petredow (talk) 10:49, 19 March 2016 (UTC) — Peterdow123Peterdow123 (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. Note: struck multiple vote (again) Joseph2302 (talk) 10:58, 19 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Comment so what if i made not many edits on other pages SO the fact is the page passes the standard delete it and go against your own rule .11:12, 19 March 2016 (UTC)petredow (talk) — Peterdow123 (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * The fact that you've only made edits on this page, and are using multiple IPs to make it look like more people support makes it seem that you're not here to contribute positively to the encyclopedia as a whole. 11:13, 19 March 2016 (UTC)

so you say i am all the people above answer this please petredow (talk) 11:20, 19 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Yes, that's what I believe the sockpuppet investigation will reveal. Joseph2302 (talk) 11:23, 19 March 2016 (UTC)

That is a false statement but it is ok delete the page and go against your own rules    that is all i say  has the page passes the standard lol they are not my rules  petredow (talk) 11:22, 19 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete As failing WP:BIO, no secondary sources suggest he has so far had anything more than a reflected temporary notability. Fortuna Imperatrix Mundi  11:37, 19 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Comment i don't think having worked in the north shore tv show and having music played on national t.v show numerous times and had many projects smith and mighty anthony b junior kelly to name a few petredow (talk) 12:04, 19 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Note This user attempted to strike my !vote (although failed in the attempt). Fortuna Imperatrix Mundi  12:15, 19 March 2016 (UTC)


 * Comment yes i did i seen others do it to my comments maybe i don't understand the practice but don't bring negarive i did not know you could not do that has i seen people strick my comments? i am sorry i did not mean to sway nothing the page stands for itself  don't try and sway with negative we are powerful petredow (talk) 13:20, 19 March 2016 (UTC)
 * You say we are powerful, does more than one person have access to this account? Amortias (T)(C) 13:42, 19 March 2016 (UTC)


 * Comment  no just me petredow (talk) 14:11, 19 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Comment  can all forgive me has i been told that i can only have one vote on the page i am sorry i did not know If this is the page does qualify then take it down but if it does do the rite thing thank you  petredow (talk) 15:48, 19 March 2016 (UTC)


 * A reminder that this a discussion of whether an article is able to meet Wikipedia's article guidelines and policies. Please keep it to that. Any more malarkey such as striking out bolded recommendations and, yes, you should only make one bolded recommendation such as 'keep' or 'delete', may be met with blocks. --Malcolmxl5 (talk) 16:02, 19 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:N and WP:GNG. Sources do not establish notability. MrWooHoo (talk) 21:31, 19 March 2016 (UTC)


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